Why so many traders fail despite having good strategies

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anonSenior Member
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#1Jul 1, 2020, 07:14 AM
The main thing that sets traders apart from gamblers is having a solid strategy. I've mentioned this before, but if you're diving into Forex without a clear plan, you're not really trading you're just hoping for a lucky break. A lot of traders spend years on the hunt for that perfect strategy, thinking there's some hidden formula out there that will let them dominate the market and consistently make money. Sadly, most end up realizing that no such magic strategy exists. The reality is that many different strategies can be profitable. As long as a strategy is tested, shows it has an edge, and has a clear set of rules, it can do well. Yet, we still witness traders failing even with strategies that have led others to success. So, what's the deal? In a lot of situations, it’s not that the strategy is flawed. The problem often lies in the fact that traders don’t give themselves enough time to truly master it. They hop from one strategy to another every time they hit a losing streak, convinced that the next one will finally turn things around. Almost every successful trader has faced this at some point. They’ve wondered about their system, doubted their skills, and thought about switching to something totally different. But over time, many come to the realization that continuously changing strategies just resets their learning curve. Even when they find a strategy that fits them well, some traders still struggle to lock in consistent profits. And the bottom line is that real mastery doesn’t happen overnight.
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#2Jul 1, 2020, 07:30 AM
Gambling is all about luck. You rely on luck for everything. Similarly, if you trade without a proper strategy and plan, then it’s equivalent to gambling. Hence, strategy plays an important role. Absolutely, I have seen traders who don’t spend enough time on theoretical research. They need to understand that before trading with real money, they should first observe the market and test their strategy on demo accounts. Once they have gained enough experience with a demo account, they can start trading with real money while following proper risk management and using stop-loss orders. Many people don’t do this and keep blaming the strategy, saying that patterns don’t work in trading.
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f4lc0n2015Full Member
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#3Jul 1, 2020, 12:10 PM
Thee motive of every trader is profit, but beyond profit as a trader, one way or the other you must eventually meet loss both concepts are inevitable. It's easy to say the secret to every strategy is to fail and try again most folks see failure as a setback, but if you don't fail, you can't learn. While taking losses isn't that easy especially for those who struggle to generate income for their trades the way you proceed with your strategy will determine if it will become profitable or not.... ​Overall as individuals, our perspectives and intellect are different. My best take on this is that if a poor strategy leads to poor trades, then the strategy should be changed. However if you have made profits from the strategy before, and as time goes on the strategy seems a little bit more difficult than before then you almost certainly need to study more on the strategy, not change it. That's all......
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vault_nodeFull Member
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#4Jul 1, 2020, 04:25 PM
Most traders will fail because they dont know that the market repeats its cycles and hence timing is important. Most traders will fail because they want quick and easy money rather than the grind of waiting for the buying low and then again waiting till they sell high. Most traders will fail because they switch from spot trading to non-spot trading (leverage, margin etc) in a matter of seconds because spot takes time but yields money slowly. While non-spot will continuously eat away your money before you know it.
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f0x_bo5sFull Member
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#5Jul 1, 2020, 07:19 PM
Many traders have good strategy but the problem is that they are not following their strategy. They will say they will not be greedy but they will see themselves to be greedy and which is the reason they are losing. They will continue like that and seeing themselves making the same mistake. They will be winning but later lose and continue to trade, having in mind not to chase loss but they are chasing the loss. This is the problem that most traders are having, they have good strategy but they are not following it.
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the_kingHero Member
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#6Jul 1, 2020, 11:21 PM
There are several concepts that they do not adhere to or violate when carrying out Bitcoin trader activities which makes them often fail when carrying out trader activities, these concepts are generally known by traders but they often ignore them, This concept is emotions that trigger greed and fear as well as when they are inconsistent in carrying out crypto trading activities, Even though they have strategies that can be said to be quite good therapy if they don't care about the concepts I said above, it's futile and always fails, that's my personal experience. In short, if we cannot control our emotions psychologically, we will often experience failure in crypto trading, such as selling too quickly, when they actually know the price is going up, because they are afraid of losing money they sell quickly which can cut into their overall profits. Ignoring Stop Loss will also trigger failure as well as a way for traders to take revenge, This often happens to Bitcoin traders, they do it by trading blindly and emotionally.
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coin_2013Member
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#7Jul 2, 2020, 12:22 AM
I believe the reason why traders usually fail is because they do not have patient to continue using and mastering a particular strategy they have been using, some traders just want to make quick money and because of that they don't value experience and patient they want everything to be done very fast and most of them jump from One strategy to the other and that is how they keep losing money, if you want to be a very good trader you need to be patient with One strategy, make sure you master it very well when you have done that you will start making profit from trading, money just don't come easily you need to be patient and consistent in what ever you are doing as long as it's a good strategy you will succeed.
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#8Jul 2, 2020, 05:32 AM
I actually agree with both you and OP. Strategy and psychology is what defines and differentiates successful and unsuccessful traders, personally I think many traders today do not have definite strategy for their own rather they actually depends on the strategy of the influencer they follow and if that strategy doesn’t works or they see another influencer who is actually showing them wins they jump into that strategy he is trading and this is how they usually fails to hold on to one particular strategy and only increases their chances of losing. While Dem account is there to practice a strategy with I usually say that most of this traders actually are not paying attention to back testing of their strategy. You can actually back test your strategy on a certain pair(s) to see how that strategy would actually work out if used with the pair(s). While back testing is dependent on past performances I still think it’s a great idea to test a strategy because the market on its own actually follows historical patterns. Then after affirming that the strategy is actually working on that pair, one can use Demo account to test the strategy on the new events for some time and then probably move to live account, but even on live account they must still be patient because the emotions are always different between demo and live accounts
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vault_2009Full Member
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#9Jul 2, 2020, 09:25 AM
The point where we go wrong as traders is when we think that we are supposed to master a specific strategy and stick to that, but that's not the right thing to do, because you have to master trading itself and not a single strategy; this means that you have to master all the possible strategies for all the possible market scenarios and conditions because the market doesn't stay the same way all the time, conditions of the market keep changing over time, so if you are just stuck with a single strategy that you are applying in every scenario and market condition, you are surely going to lose money instead of getting any profits. As a trader, if you want to become successful, you have to master the market, and then master all the strategies, and then you will be able to apprehend which strategy is going to suitable for which market condition, when you apply that into your trading, you will see improvements. This doesn't mean that you are going to make profits guaranteed from every trade you make, but it just means that your profit-making probability will increase and then if you time your trades properly and understand when and how you need to open and close your trades, you will actually see that most of your trades will be profitable.
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#10Jul 2, 2020, 02:42 PM
People spend too much time finding the right strategy and moving from one to another because they know they can make money if they do their own research and analysis. They just have spare money but do not have enough conviction or time, so they do not want to do their own analysis. They want to find a strategy that can make them money, like AI doing the work of humans. Like a robot doing the same human work, automating things, and making people lazier. A person can be anything and can do anything, but still chooses not to do things on their own. Instead, they want to depend on something that is less reliable but might work. That little hope is driving them all this time, and they might get some results too, but it is not a long term thing. Strategies change when they become famous and everyone starts using them. Therefore, instead of mastering a single strategy or testing multiple ones, we must go around them, improvise, and analyze what is going wrong and how we can be right.
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shard_minerSenior Member
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#11Jul 2, 2020, 05:04 PM
The simple trick to become a successful trader is to master position sizing and emotional discipline or emotional control which is all part of risk management. When a trader changes strategy, they do so because they have no mastery over their emotions or understand that position sizing irrespective of any strategy is the key. You can't just treat trading as a gambling game of predictions because when it is treated as such, that's why no matter the strategy, no profit is made.
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chriswolfFull Member
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#12Jul 2, 2020, 09:38 PM
Strategy alone does not make you a profitable trader. More than mastery of the strategy that proven works for you, a good and profitable trader works also on its technical edge, strict risk management and self-mastery that comes with emotional discipline to beat the trader's fear, greed and impulsive decisions while trading in the market. Indeed, mastering on the strategy that best works for you is one way to be profitable, but working on the combination of what I've mentioned above will guarantee more trading success and financial returns.
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raven_sigmaFull Member
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#13Jul 3, 2020, 12:19 AM
Most times what makes traders to experience a lot losses in trading is greedy and inability to learn and comprehend the procedures of trading, some doesn't learn the ethics of trading before they go into trading, and that's why they keep on losing, you learn and obtain the skills of trading from experts or from experienced traders, but most of people who is into trading did not acquire the skill but only base on safe trading without a tutor, so that's the basic things that makes people to lose more often.
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Gig4L0rdSenior Member
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#14Jul 3, 2020, 04:41 AM
There are several important aspects of trading: Trading strategyTrading psychologyMoney management In this context, we’ll discuss trading strategies. I agree that to become a profitable trader, you must stick consistently to a single strategy. Most traders are busy searching for the most profitable strategy, as soon as they find one and learn a little about it, they immediately feel something is missing and continue their search. This is what prevents a trader from ever making progress, all they do is keep losing money. My advice to beginner traders, find the strategy you’re most comfortable with, then backtest it to determine its accuracy. If the accuracy is above 50%, stick with it and focus on refining it.
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guru2011Full Member
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#15Jul 3, 2020, 09:00 AM
Not all strategies that are profitable for others will also be profitable on you. Sometimes, its not on the strategy that matters, but how you approach trading and strictly impose strict management on it. Now, if you have been using that strategy along with high emotions, obviously it won't work because trading with emotions is one of the biggest barrier in trading success. But trade when the market is favorable to trade. Trade when there are profit opportunities, and not when you want to chase your losses nor your luck because you are already disappointed with the consistent losses you endure from trading.
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viper_2009Full Member
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#16Jul 3, 2020, 01:49 PM
Trading success requires a combination of aspects to be hit before profits will be guaranteed. Traders should not just be good in fundamental but technical analysis as well, having emotional control, and having strict risk management that comes with high discipline. So if you only have profitable strategy alone, it won't be sufficient enough to make you succeed in trading, no matter how you master your strategy. Traders fail due to different aspects, same goes for profiting on your trades.
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paulyieldSenior Member
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#17Jul 3, 2020, 04:49 PM
The word fail and profitable in one sentence itself is pretty contradictory. You won't fail if your strategy is profitable, if your strategy is profitable you will make money regardless. If you fail, your strategy is unprofitable and probably half baked and not backtesting properly or the trader don't know what they're doing. If someone said to have profitable strategy yet they don't really master it, they really don't have strategy. Trading is great becuase it's black or white, it's always whether you make profit or not at the end of the day.
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#18Jul 3, 2020, 08:18 PM
Mostly traders don't fail because of a bad strategy they fail because they can't follow it consistently. Fear makes them exit winners too early while greed keeps them in losing trades too long. Poor risk management destroys accounts even with a profitable edge. Revenge trading and overtrading erase weeks of steady gains. Successful trading is driven more by discipline than prediction. In the end psychology beats strategy for most traders.This is a most important points.
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#19Jul 4, 2020, 04:46 AM
A thorough understanding of strategy is indeed necessary. However, beyond that, most traders actually have varying levels of discipline from one trader to another. For example, there are often Telegram channels or X accounts dedicated to market analysis that occasionally provide free trading signals to the public. Strangely enough, even though everyone receives the same signal, trading results can vary from one trader to another. And well, the issue is that each trader’s psychological resilience differs, leading to varying levels of discipline. Someone who patiently follows the signals, sets appropriate stop-loss and take-profit levels, and uses appropriate leverage will achieve good results. However, with the same signal, some traders become greedy, increase their leverage, and even skip setting a stop-loss. consequently, they’re vulnerable to losses if the signal turns out to be wrong. In contrast, those who use a stop-loss can minimize losses even if the signal fails. Well, the same principle applies to trading strategies. Even if Trader A and Trader B use the same strategy, the results will depend on the trader’s own level of discipline.
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ape_2018Senior Member
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#20Jul 4, 2020, 05:04 AM
The market is volatile and challenging for all traders, even including investors too. So with traders, it's hard to survive in this market by trading and most traders lose their money many times from initial trading capital to next ones, repeating it many rounds while have yet mastered trading in this challenging and dangerous market. If I have to say any advice to people who have been in this market or intend to join it, don't trade, don't believe that they can master trading and get profit here by trading. It's safer if they forget about chance of getting rich with trading, beating the market, beating other traders in the market, it's very risky. It's safer if they choose to use their money for long term investment only.
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