It's no surprise that AI and robots are on the rise. They can learn, build, and produce really fast.
AI could totally thrive on this planet even without humans around. Sure, the elite might chill with AI and robots, but we could definitely see a world with way fewer people than we have now. AI can handle heavier workloads and do tasks faster than any human.
Since AI doesn't deal with morals or human flaws, it’ll follow orders from the elite without hesitation. Think about it, they could manage surveillance, policing, and a ton more. But if AI gains too much power, it could get out of hand. Trying to fight back against AI would feel like going up against a supercomputer.
And then there's this whole pre-crime analysis thing. It sounds kinda sci-fi, right? But in the future, AI might figure out if someone's about to commit a crime before they even do it.
A lot of people still don’t realize just how much they’re gonna be replaced in this new world.
AI can run the economy solo, faster and better than humans
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Things will cost then a lot less then they cost now ai can produce and even to build house way faster.
Well first elite can use ai to eliminate the peasents, then AI will eliminate elite and will live itself on earth.
Yeah, no. We're not at that point yet, that would be a terminator or matrix like reality which might arrive in future but people are still in control right now. Can I ask what you've been smoking by the way? There are plenty of opportunities for AI to advance in future and it may be given special privileges especially with eccentric billionaires like Elon Musk around - experimenting with brain microchips and refusing to listen to decency when it comes to his AI engine. If humanity can harness all of the good elements and stay in control of these systems, which considering they'll be infinitely smarter than us will be hard, then we might be able to use them to explore the universe and find enough space for everyone to exist peacefully. However mankind has a tendency towards war, which might not be liked by AI.
It's a fact actually that Ai are already skyrocketing around the globe and most certain that it can outrun faster than humans efforts.
With the manner at which is going it has proven that it has come to stay and to fill in the gaps of humans, but my little initiative is that with all the ongoing tremendous impacts of the AI technology it shouldn't be given dominance over humans rather there should be some limits to their activities in sble to satisfy man's needs.
Okay why dont you just submit your forum account details to an Ai to handle your activities on the forum so you can continue sleeping
in as much as AI has become very smart they are still human dependent and cant even reason logically as human they cant relate with your emotions its input and output no logical processing like the human brain. AI lacks true consciousness and subjective opinions or experience and also originality is what AI is struggling with.
From what you're trying to point out, the thought of hope and being afraid of Ai is a mixed one, but if you look from one side technology will make things fast and cheaper but in the other hand humans or people are scared that power and control can turn out to be very dangerous if been used anyhow. It also make it clear that progress isn't all about being fast and also having the comfort. The only thing is that, it's how AI is being used by humans that will determine if it will bring about help or brings new challenges.
AI is definitely having a major impact in global economy but I will say that it is still in the early stages, there is no way it could run everything without human input or intervention. Remember that they are coded by humans, so there will always be input from humans in whatever area AI is being deployed. It is possible that AI will do more than we are seeing now but we are not yet there..
just_bridgeSenior Member
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#8Dec 15, 2022, 09:36 AM
Machines(AI) cannot run the economy. Never.
It is only a speculation but in a thousand years it can never happen. No matter how intelligent they become.
Humans created machines and as such, they have their pros and cons. No machine is self-fix or indestructible. So relax, the economy will still be run by humans and supported by systems(machines) which they have create to make it efficient.
There's so much upgrades of AI ongoing and even integrated bots still require upgrades and the need of developers to monitor and manage the systems for efficiency and observation.
Ai, just like machines, aim to make things easier and task, less demanding that humans have to evolve in knowledge and skills on how to integrate it properly into personal or office workspace.
Well, some of the things you talked about are a bit over exaggerated, especially the part where you stated that AI would be able to detect crimes even before it is committed. I won't deny the facts that the AI technology is still improving, and it even happens to be one of the biggest industries today, but the truth is, what we have today is nothing near perfection, and I doubt if it's going to get close to perfection in the next few years. Mind you, just because they can do some tasks for a very long time doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to occupy the labour market.
The human intelligence, imo is still the best. We as humans are the ones that actually don't need AI, and not the other way around.
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#11Dec 18, 2022, 08:21 AM
can they though i dont feel ai can run the world with out humans specific areas yeah more technical but the whole world na. humans have been around from the day the earth started evolving and i dont think were going anywhere any time soon for ai to keep existing it will need humans in order for this to happen. ai and robots dont function with out us and even if they did the day would com where they would mal function. yeah ai and robots can take many job within a sector but the need for humans will always be a reality.
It sounds like you are describing a synopsis for a science fiction movie, or couple of them. I think I have seen them all.
Lets say you understand that, what can you do about it? If you feel "unneeded," its probably because you are competing in the category of "repeatable tasks" where the machine already won.
Nah, the danger isnt that humans are not "needed." It's worse. We are becoming tools for the computers.
Are you saying humans will choose not to exist? Remember that all created things are initiated by humans. And humans struggle a lot to survive, and just like because AI becomes dominant in field work, humans will choose not to exist? A funny logic for me.
Anything in this mortal world that is not natural needs humans to start. AI may improve different lines of work but still human workforce will always have place in the ecosystem.
kevinorbitFull Member
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#14Dec 20, 2022, 06:44 AM
So long as AI is been made by human I believe human will still have control over them they can't just chance their creator just like that, did you think AI can function effectively without human instructions? Of course we need to be their to guide them on what to do because they might probably mess things up if we didn't keep a close eye on them. So for me I'm not even threaten by this AI stuff.
And secondly what makes you think that in the future human might be of no use? Maybe that's what you're wishing for yourself but as for me I believe I will be needed in future time whether AI dominate the whole world or not I will still find somewhere to attach myself.
rocket_matrixFull Member
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#15Dec 20, 2022, 10:38 AM
AI itself is neither moral nor immoral. It is a tool. It depends on the person who uses it. The problem is not AI the problem is power concentration. If a few people have control over the technology then there is a risk. Therefore, strong law, transparency and public oversight are needed along with AI development. AI will replace humans we need to think beyond this thinking and think AI + human collaboration. As airplanes have autopilot but pilots are still needed.
its_cipherSenior Member
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#16Dec 20, 2022, 03:36 PM
AI cannot want or not want something, so it is incorrect to express whether it needs people or not. It's the elite that manage AI that don't need extra people on the planet. The actual model of the ideal world order (from the point of view of the global elite) is Epstein's Island. Add AI to this to manage it on a global scale and you get the future. A small number of people will be bred on AI-run farms and these people will be used by the elite only as raw materials (for medicines, cosmetology, etc.), organ donors, food, sex toys, slaves, servants, etc. The collective "conditional Epstein" will only enjoy clean air, water, and other clean ecology in endless hedonism.
dave_satoshiSenior Member
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#17Dec 21, 2022, 08:04 AM
AI is not the first nor the last disruptive technology. Humans are making progress from the day life started on this planet. We must not fear AI neither we should oppose it rather we must accept it and try to develop expertise in it. AI was said to threat to programmers job but those programmers who learned it (got themselves expert in tools like ChatGPT) are now in better position to perform their job. Likewise people working in other sectors must identify the potential of AI in there domain and try to learn that. That's the only way to survive in AI hurricane.
yield_ninjaFull Member
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#18Dec 21, 2022, 11:58 AM
Why do we want to separate AI from humans, the entire purpose of AI is help assist the activities of humans, just the way humans have been inventing different things from ages to help them, things like Cars, wheelbarrow, bicycle, heavy duty Trucks and the rest of it, they where all made to assist the workload of humans. So when I see people trying to bring the narrative of separating humans from AI and making it look like the AI created themselves as a stand alone entity, it gets me worried.
AI will never be able to completely replace humans, or they could become so intelligent that they develop on their own and dominate humanity, just like in science fiction movies. That can only happen if an elite group wants it and they are the ones behind it all, not AI. They are simply taking advantage of AI and using it to do those things on their behalf.
There will never be a case where AI can develop on its own without humans. We should not watch too many science fiction movies
alexwalletSenior Member
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#20Dec 21, 2022, 05:50 PM
AI needs humans to prompt it, but its learning will always be limited, preventing it from challenging its masters. We've probably heard the argument that "AI and robots don't have feelings," but what about their sensory abilities? To a certain point, humans will doubt all AI capabilities. After all, if AI is only meant to stifle the economic cycle of the lower and middle classes, then what good will AI do to keep the elite economically prosperous?
Honestly, I prefer the conspiracy theory that elites are trying to find the elixir of immortality to ruling with the power of AI.
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