Are the lumpenproletariat a societal issue?

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jake.chainSenior Member
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#1Jan 1, 2025, 12:08 PM
So, the lumpenproletariat really doesn't contribute anything to society but still gets support, either from the government or family. We're talking about those who are out of work and seem indifferent to improving their economic situation. Do you know anyone fitting this description? These folks seem okay with just scraping by. They get help from the state, yet they don’t take steps to better their financial status. They can actually hinder economic growth because (1) they use up resources without doing anything productive in return. (2) they often engage in illegal activities, which puts more strain on citizens and damages the area's reputation. (3) if they aren't the ones committing crimes, they usually end up being victims, easily manipulated and exploited. But there's this paper that mentions the lumpenproletariat's role is kind of unpredictable at all times. If that's accurate, we really need to be cautious about their unreliability, but we shouldn't just go along with Engels's view of them as completely useless and just a threat. The focus often ends up on young lumpenproletarians, suggesting they might still be influenced and could achieve something. So, do you think the lumpenproletariat (like the homeless, long-term unemployed, and criminals) is the issue in society, or are they victims of a system that mainly helps capitalists? Should we consider eliminating the lumpenproletariat?
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