Digital Euro Update

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wolf2020Senior Member
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#1Apr 18, 2017, 06:04 PM
So, the last time I checked, the EU is pushing forward with a new digital cash concept for the Euro, known as the "Digital Euro". There’s some good info on this over at the ECB's official site. Meanwhile, the US seems to have dropped its CBDC (Digital Dollar) plans during Trump's time, and a lot of folks are curious if the US is gonna fall behind while others forge ahead. China’s already rolled out the e-CNY, and Nigeria's got the eNaira. But what about a Digital Euro? It could potentially take over the USD if it doesn't morph into a CBDC down the line. What do you all think about the EU's initiative to introduce a "Digital Euro"? Is it gonna be a hit? Do you reckon it can hang out with cash (you know, paper money) or will it just wipe it out completely? I’d love to hear your thoughts. Cheers!
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s33d_moonFull Member
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#2Apr 20, 2017, 04:19 PM
The digital euro is far from being expected to completely replace with paper money. My reason for this is that to have this type of money, you always have an electronic devices with you, so i think its not good idea to completely replace with paper money
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silentchainHero Member
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#3Apr 20, 2017, 08:15 PM
The ideal of introducing the digital currency is a welcomed development because it would contribute to the fights against robbery attacks of people with the hold of physical cashes but the adoption of the technology will be limited to users who are not conversant with digital technologies and as noted a centralized commodity, the cash will stay and same time will the digital euro exist so, it should be decisions of individuals to operate with any of the concept that is comfortable for them to use. And if the digital currency replaces the cash, then it would other hand lead to economy crisis with it effects of unemployment where banks workers will be affected.
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whale_chainFull Member
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#4Apr 22, 2017, 06:25 PM
But you will agree the world is going digital and people are  more comfortable making payments through digital means than with paper money. This will help reduce cash dependencies, it will promote low cost transactions, it will limit the risk of bank failures and improve privacy. It is hard to see an adult who doesn't have access to a digital device no matter how outdated the device might be. Paper money is gradually fading away. Ushering in an enhanced payment option with better efficiency and a more reliable alternative to our regular banking system.
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s33d_moonFull Member
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#5Apr 23, 2017, 12:37 AM
I'm agree with that, people prefer to with credit cards or use digital payments like NFC, but as I said people like me are there that don't prefer to use phone or digital gadgets outside of home, And think about it, what should be done if one day the electricity or internet is cut off for a long time due to natural disasters such as earthquakes or floods?  Or what should be done if there is an urgent matter and the charge of your phone or gadget is over?
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eric.wolfFull Member
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#6Apr 23, 2017, 02:49 AM
It can be. I do not see any reason why not if I am being honest. Digital money has been proven to be vital in these times and it is just as important that they try to not get left behind by other countries. I doubt that. Paper money is always needed. Not everyone will have digital euros on hand ready to use it to buy something or to accept it from a buyer. So I think the best that could happen is if just enough people using the digital money.
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#7Apr 23, 2017, 06:21 AM
hopefully you never have a situation without power or internet or both of the same time. Just look at Heathrow, splendid example for a failure in thinking. Speaking of the UK: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/03/20/the-bbc-gave-thames-water-bosses-a-free-hit-they-punched/ Those people are managing your/our utilities. Someone else is to blame, always.
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0xC0braFull Member
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#8Apr 23, 2017, 07:29 AM
The plan of introducing the digital Euro will be successful, based on what have been said, the reason of introducing the digital Euro is because of the evolution of new technologies and there is a large demand by consumers on how urgent they want their payment to be processed, while they have not yet introduced the digital euro is because Euro cash is still dominating and so the introduction of the digital euro is still under consideration only to be launched when their is a very great important to do so. They have not stated in their new release the date which it will be Launched but they said it's unders consideration until it becomes necessary to do so, which means it might not be this year, not anytime soon. Based on what they said, they sound it clear that the digital euro will not replace cash.
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tony69Senior Member
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#9Apr 23, 2017, 08:20 AM
Bro, it's not possible dealing without paper money, it's the bedrock of any monetary policy in any nation that's why some sectors doesn't accept digital means of payment in their business, there's a reason why. Everything must not go digital even if people is saying digitalization is civilisation bla bla. I bet you, there are business associates that wouldn't support the Digital Euro for their daily transactions which are the drugs dealers or other illegal business dealers. And I'm pretty much sure that any payment app designed for payment will have a certain restrictions on the amount of transaction to be done daily.
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defi_2017Senior Member
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#10Apr 23, 2017, 09:23 AM
The problem is not only the digital euro, it is that it will be linked to digital identity, meaning that the public authorities will have all the information about you in one place and in real time. Not just when you were born, what you studied, what you do for a living, what illnesses you have or have had, but what you spend every penny you spend. If you had asked me not long ago, I would have told you that it will be successfully implemented because the majority of the population are like sheep that go to the slaughterhouse and don't know it, or like the frog that is cooked and the same thing. But it seems that there has been a lot of opposition to the issue and although the ECB initially wanted to launch it this October, they have now backtracked and said that October will be the next step and the launch will be later.
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whale_chainFull Member
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#11Apr 24, 2017, 07:58 AM
Europe and other part of the world is not Africa where the world seems to be darker in terms of technology. Businesses has advanced and technology is the order of the day. Come to think of it which big business tycoon moves about with paper money this days when they go for their business trips? Even a petty business trader takes caution by not going on a business trip with paper money to avoid been robbed on the road That is the response I got from chatgpt. Digital payment will become the order of the day because of its convince and accessibility. It will have wider adoption and depending on the model chosen by the central bank they might choose to eliminate third party intermediates which gives their citizens direct power to ECB.
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humblefarmSenior Member
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#12Apr 24, 2017, 01:45 PM
Your assumption that some countries are becoming totally cashless is true. In Sweden only one out of ten transactions is done with cash. But Sweden and Norway are now encouraging people to use cash in case of emergencies like war or crisis. There might be an attack on key infrastructure, which might cause online payment channels to suffer network issues. Physical currency in these Nordic nations is now been seen as a tool for national security and civil defense. Infact sanctions could be placed on any business that refuse to accept cash payments.
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L0neDegenSenior Member
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#13Apr 24, 2017, 07:36 PM
And if this person gets a flat tyre, or miscalculates the location of refueling or gets lost/on the wrong road and has to get help somewhere at the country side... what you think he's going to pay with? A credit card.. nobody can read for miles? Imho your assumption is wrong. The world is bigger than cities and planes and motorways and in way too many locations cashless payments are not even a dream. So it depends on more factors than you took into account and having some cash - not a lifechanging amount, obviously - is a smart caution. And yeah, going completely cashless is impossible in the current generation. We need 100% (not even 99.9%) internet coverage as a bare minimum first step.
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gang_2011Member
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#14Apr 25, 2017, 11:53 PM
That is an insult to Africans but I like it because that is what African leaders want. But what Josefjix said is very much correct. Business tycoons are not carrying physical Cash around again because the world is digitalizing it currencies yet the fiat currency is still used in the digital arena therefore, we can't do without the fiat currency be a cash or online (digital), and bitcoin was designed to help the fiat digitally by using it to buy things online and paying services but the store of value has taking over the coin so nobody is care about the use of the real p2p of the coins which is buying and selling of goods and services online. Even now, we sell our coins to fiat currency digitally before using to buy things and paying for services either in Cash or Transfer. So Josefjix is 100% correct.
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pixel_cobraFull Member
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#15Apr 28, 2017, 05:24 AM
US is supporting the stablecoins like USDT which its been speculated to be the real CBDC already. They won't be left behind if its what you mean. USDT been use in international trade already and Tether is one of the top buyer of US treasuries.  So if Trump says he doesn't like CBDC, its because he wasn't aware, USDT is actually a CBDC stablecoin. Its Europe that I think is left behind if its only now they are considering the digital Euro.
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nova_2019Senior Member
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#16Apr 28, 2017, 06:15 AM
I live in a country, that is a member of the European Union and what I mostly hear is a bunch of right-wing commentators screaming and whining about the "digital euro". They say, that a digital euro would cause fin-tech totalitarianism and the people will lose control over their savings and wealth. Maybe they are right. I'm not an expert the field of CBDCs. What I do know is the fact that no digital currency can ever completely replace paper money. The digital euro's goal isn't to replace the paper euro. The main goal is the European Central Bank gaining more control over the money supply and limiting the control of the commercial banks over the economy. The digital euro cannot replace the US dollar as a global currency. Don't make me laugh.
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orbit_2013Full Member
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#17Apr 28, 2017, 10:21 AM
I hope you're right. There are many critical voices now saying that it will replace paper money and that all our transactions will be traceable, which will lead to the end of our privacy. In many other aspects Europe is well known for ensuring a framework of guarantees around the rights of its citizens, so these dystopian claims seem to me to be far from reality. But we will have to be attentive to see what it finally means.
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miner_bullFull Member
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#18Apr 28, 2017, 03:03 PM
I believe that CBDCs might coexist with cash for some time, but I hope that they will not become a mainstream way of digital payments. Aren't there even bigger privacy concerns that with debit card payments? Higher traceability, bigger data exposure. The EU doesn't do things hastily, especially when they aren't sure. And while I believe that the USD can lose some of its dominance as #1 foreign reserve currency, its current dominance share of around 58% vs around 20% share for EUR is too high to be seriously challenged.
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L0neDegenSenior Member
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#19Apr 29, 2017, 07:51 AM
It really depends on how is it implemented. After all, they don't even need blockchain for CBDC. So it can easily be done that *they* can trace everything, while the payment processors can see only that they need to, like for credit/debit cards. If done, CBDC can coexist with cash for long time, actually. It will be a cheap alternative to banks, alternative that works also in the non banking days... with a catch: all your payment details will be registered everywhere, even more eagerly than if you use now banks/cards for everything. Some will care. Some won't. It's just a new leap in surveillance. And how else can it be achieved better than by convenience?
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miner_bullFull Member
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#20Apr 29, 2017, 12:13 PM
nowadays the trend is that countries globally are starting to develop their digital currencies to catch up with the massive development of cryptocurrency today. the purpose of this digital currency is the same as fiat, but it can be used by everyone in their transactions, and it is different compared to e-wallets, because it was launched directly by the government. and i think that this digital currency will not replace fiat completely, instead it will coexist and complement each other. because no matter what, fiat is still needed by people, but those who want to be practical can choose digital currency.
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