FREELANCING AND MODERN WORK STYLES

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ape_2018Senior Member
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#1Feb 21, 2019, 03:11 AM
In fields like accounting, law, architecture, and healthcare, self-employment is still going strong. Thanks to tech advancements, it's even better now. For instance, many IT pros are thriving while working from home, offering consultancy and solving problems, all while keeping technical databases up and running. This setup lets companies save on office space and helps employees skip the daily grind of commuting. But being self-employed isn't just about running your own business or being the big boss. If you're offering your skills and services, you're technically self-employed. By that logic, everyone working in a company is actually their own boss, providing value in exchange for their paycheck. A lot of folks miss this mindset and just label themselves as 'employed'. But in reality, you're your own boss for the services you bring to the table. If you don't believe in your skills, you'll end up getting taken advantage of by the company you work for. Realizing that the company relies on you just as much (if not more) than you rely on them is the first step to embracing your role as your own CEO and recognizing your self-employment.
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miner_satFull Member
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#2Feb 21, 2019, 06:43 AM
I disagree with you that an employee is a CEO in the company that he is working. If you're employed to work with a company or someone in order for you to be paid, you are not self employed because you depend on working for someone to get paid. They can choose to pay you or fire you. When you're self employed, you are your own boss. You make your decisions and don't report to anyone or depend on anyone to give the final say.
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stack_2019Full Member
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#3Feb 21, 2019, 06:53 AM
You're so wrong. Being self-employed doesn't mean to only own a business or be the CEO of a company, but it means that you are not working for someone else, no matter what you are doing. You can't say that even if you are working for a company and providing your services to them, you are self-employed, because you are basically working under someone else, you are getting paid to do a specific work for someone else, and you are bound to do that work no matter what, the company is not going to let you do the work whenever you want, and that's not how self-employment works. When someone is self-employed, they are basically free from restrictions, they can decide when they want to work and when they don't, and that isn't possible when you are employed. Freelancing, owning a business, running your agency, or whatever else that you do where you can decide whether you want to work for a specific day or not without affecting your job or having to listen to someone else who has the right to give you orders is what self-employment is all about.
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ColdLynxMember
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#4Feb 21, 2019, 07:42 AM
He was even making some sense in his first paragraph but at some point he start deviating, talking about every employed member of an organization being a CEO  how does this even sound in his ear? Seems that op don't really know the different between someone who is self employed and also an employee. And I think the explanation you gave here is very clear I believe op can now see the different between someone who is self employed and also an employee, in addition to what have been said an employee can only be considered as the CEO that's if the owner of the company is no more and it happens to be that you're the only person that knows everything about the company that's the only way it will work, but so long as the owner of the company is still alive an employee can never take his place.
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#5Feb 21, 2019, 12:37 PM
It helps if you lead with a question rather than just a blanket statement because nobody is really sure what you're trying to discuss, on a forum.. Yes self employment is all of those things but is not the fairytale that some people make it out to be. I don't know what trashy places you've worked at but nobody should be harassing you, if they are report it to somebody that can help or stamp it out yourself, it shouldn't be tolerated. Exploitation can sometimes be overused and taken out of context but things like working for minimum wage because you don't have a particularly complicated job is not it. Being your own boss can bring lots of different stresses with it too, like having to manage many areas that you may never have encountered before including handling finances.
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3r1c777Full Member
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#6Feb 21, 2019, 02:01 PM
But you will agree with me that no matter how good you are, a business or company that isn't registered in your name is definitely not yours, which means you can get sacked at anytime?. I agree that being a specialist at what you do is very important, but it's still not enough criteria that categories you as someone who is self employed. Self employment is simply working for oneself and not for others. Mind you, it is different from when you are rendering a service directly to someone who happens to be the face of the business and pays you for the job done. Good skill isn't just enough. The risk that comes with having and managing a personal business is definitely not what everyone can cope with. The CEO title comes with a lot of responsibilities aside being very good at what you do.
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HyperGweiSenior Member
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#7Feb 21, 2019, 02:38 PM
Try telling your boss at the office that you are the CEO. Or when your company is downsizing and you happen to be on the list, refuse to leave, because according to you, you are the CEO and you are self employed. If you cannot sleep and decide to wake up whenever you want, or take vacations when you want to, because your business runs without you being present, then you are not self employed. As long as someone can fire you, retrench you or reduce your salary at will, then you are an employee.
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GigaViperMember
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#8Feb 21, 2019, 06:45 PM
In my opinion, if someone receives a salary from a company, then no matter what, you are still considered an employee. The skills you offer to the company will be classified as your first requirement for employment, and to differentiate the quality of your skills from others, the company will provide a special position along with different benefits. But as a way to increase self confidence, I think it's okay to have that perspective, as long as you don't put it into action. Simply put in any job, you are bound by rules. If you have your own company, you will voluntarily comply with the rules you make yourself, in order to achieve the goal of making your company grow over time.
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block21Full Member
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#9Feb 21, 2019, 11:22 PM
You have only listed the only ones with the obvious of potential self employed but hasn't also stated that there are so many others that isn't a self employed professions and naturally they have nothing with using there professions to become one because there are some that only work with for a firm, organization or even a company except the person wants to deviate from there study to something more external and give them the chance to self employed themselves. Another common one you did not mention is Agriculture because that's another one you cannot only no about it through study but can be naturally acquired.
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oracle365Full Member
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#10Feb 22, 2019, 02:25 AM
You can only be the Chief Executive Officer if you are the highest ranking personnel in a company that other people respond to. You're simply a staff if you take directives from someone and answer to someone. Having the mentality that you are the chief executive officer even while being employed may just cost you your job because that will encourage you to be stubborn in some kind of way as you may refuse to follow rules and regulations set up by executives higher than you are in the office. If you simply wish to answer the name of Chief Executive Officer then you have to set up your own business.
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bridge23Full Member
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#11Feb 24, 2019, 04:30 AM
I prove it to you that you are wrong here mate. As far as you are working under an organisation, you remain an employee and any skill you render there is just a skill to help increase the productivity of that company, and you just remain a worker in that organization. Definitely any worker must provide his or her basic skill for the progress of the company you are promoting, and that does not give you the right to think that you are a CEO of that job. Of course that is misinformation. Let me draw to your attention that even if you are Smart than your boss or you provide every necessary information that moves the company to another level, provided you are under the management of the current CEO, you are just a skilled worker and nothing more than that. You can only be awarded as the best worker if you excellent in what you do. Untill you open your own business and employ people under your name, you are not yet a CEO.
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shard_altMember
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#12Feb 24, 2019, 08:23 AM
Self-employment is earning money through one's own skills and services. For example, a carpenter makes furniture made of wood himself and earns a living from the income. Some other ways are: cattle, poultry, bakery, tailoring, making bamboo products, etc. To be successful in self-employment, one needs a lot of willpower and a mentality of giving hard work. Since it is an independent profession, one cannot give up easily, one has to stick with it.
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vault_nodeFull Member
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#13Feb 24, 2019, 12:36 PM
Self-employed and being a CEO does not mean the same, but I get the motion that the OP is trying to point to. In the above mentioned career paths, one can freelance or start their private practice but this takes time to grow and in between that one needs to work in another place under another senior so that they can get money to sustain and learn about their practice, get the experience documented and then move on. Both phases of life have their equal importance, the "apprenticeship" to "own practice" - one does not start without another unless you have some rich parents who are already in that career path.
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mike.chadSenior Member
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#14Feb 24, 2019, 01:16 PM
How? I hope you come back to this thread to make your logical argument and explain what you mean or you come to correct yourself. I hope you know the full meaning of the abbreviation of CEO. That's chief executive officer. So would you be a chief executive officer in another person's business or investment especially in an entrepreneur business. In conglomerate where someone can rise to such level does not mean he is the owner of the companies alone. They could get there either by the numbers of shares they hold in the company. An employed person is not the CEO, they are highered to render services through the skill that they have which will determine how much they will be paid at the end of the month as salary, and they can also be fired. So if you have a skill and you work as employee, no matter the level of the skill, you are still an employee not employer or CEO. But if you establish yourself with your skill then you are the CEO.
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BasedPixelFull Member
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#15Feb 24, 2019, 06:26 PM
If you feel a company needs you more than you need them then seriously you don't understand what is competition. There are employers which you can be better than and there are many unemployed that if given the opportunity will work better than what you've done for the company. If you have the mentality, you might get fired at the process, millions of people with the same qualification, if you have gotten the opportunity to work then don't attach pride to the office because anyone can be replaced, you are being paid and don't own the company.
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the_kingHero Member
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#16Feb 24, 2019, 06:53 PM
Of course, but that is called a skill that a person has, someone understands computer repair and so on, that is called a skill that a person has, Indeed, it's not a CEO, but it could be said to be a businessman or repairman, of course someone who has that expertise can achieve economic success thanks to his expertise. Well, someone who has expertise in a certain field and develops it himself to produce an economy for himself, cannot be called a CEO, Don't misunderstand and interpret CEOs as those who have advantages that other people certainly cannot, someone who has skills and talents cannot be called an official. while the CEO is often referred to as the highest executive officer, this is clearly very different.
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eric23Senior Member
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#17Feb 25, 2019, 12:47 AM
From the context of being  CEO while you are working for an organization and having that kind of mentality that the organization needs you more than you need them, it is going to fuel some level of pride in you which is not an healthy thing as far as working under an organization is concerned. if you are freelancing or working for yourself, their is a level of power that such presents but when you are working under an organization, you are expected to abide by the rules and regulation that govern that organization. being self employed is dependent on the skill you have as well as your personality which tells if you are a one that can cope well as a self employed person or not. if you do not have the characteristic that makes of a self employed person, just start off with an already established organization and use your skill to help them grow.
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greg.bearMember
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#18Feb 25, 2019, 02:30 AM
You're wrong in various ways, as long as you're under the payroll of a company as a regular staff, you're not self employed because you are still answerable to the superiors in such establishments. You can only claim to be self employed when you own your own company and you have a running contract with an organization. Your skills exhibited within an organization that employs you doesn't make you a CEO, rather it makes you a valuable staff and you're not self employed. Being self employed is being your own boss and offering your services to specific entities at your own discretion and not as a sense of duty to your employers.
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#19Feb 25, 2019, 05:11 AM
Everyone has different preferences and traits, whether becoming self-employed (freedom), an employee (follower), or a CEO (leader), so I don't like the idea of glorifying any of these. It also depends on how much you earn; a self-employed person might work full-time for a company if the price is right. Many people also take on more than one role, working as a full-timer while also being self-employed in their side business. Anyway, what I see in the trend of side hustling is actually bad. It happens because one cannot earn enough income from a single job -> not enough jobs -> conspiracy theorists then say that being self-employed or an entrepreneur is good.
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pixel_whaleFull Member
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#20Feb 25, 2019, 09:53 AM
I like the definition that you are your own boss, but this cannot be generalized to the example that you hold power in a company like a CEO, from a principled perspective there will be many differences, you are still a worker if you partner with a company in selling your energy or performance to the company which is under the company's rules, in that situation you are not someone who can do whatever you want in your working time under the control of other people and that shows that you are not your own boss at that time.  self-employment describes freedom of time and expression while working for someone else's company is the opposite.
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