Geopolitical tensions are reshaping global supply chains

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cobra2021Full Member
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#1Jul 23, 2024, 06:41 PM
Geopolitics is shaking up how logistics work around the globe. Just look at the rising friction between the US and China, especially over tech stuff, which is causing a new wave of unpredictability in global shipping. Major countries are starting to make decisions based on their alliances and security needs. This shift is leading to increased costs and longer shipping times. It's clear that the future of global trade won't just focus on efficiency, but also on forming strategic partnerships.
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#2Jul 23, 2024, 11:28 PM
Supply chains in face of a geopolitical tensions is suicide. Most rare earth are all but rare. They are plentiful available just the extraction is messy. Showing western industry not to trust in fictitious supply chains. The titel could also be "Death of Drop Shipping".
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#3Jul 24, 2024, 12:30 AM
I'm not a big fan of Xi Jinping, because China was on a much more progressive path before he took over, but the rise and size of the country made it inevitable that it'll overtake America economically. We are seeing a lot of groundbreaking tech come out of the counter and the fact that America is trying to stifle it only causes them to get more creative. While I didn't have very high opinion of Chinese education before, it has bounded upwards in quality over the last couple decades and is cutting edge in some ways. They also generate a lot of the basic materials that are required to manufacture all kinds of goods - from the most basic components upwards. The fact that America is stunting itself majorly with such an in-depth and corrupt president is only going to allow them to storm ahead in the next four years, whether the world likes it or not. The democratic countries should do their best to support Taiwan if Xi decides to use violence to take it over.
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calmfalconSenior Member
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#4Jul 25, 2024, 09:29 AM
It's already doing that, been doing that for decades. Hell so much so that oil was a huge problem for global supply due to all the chaos it had, so they built OPEC to handle all of these. We should realize this isn't going to be same, we are not going to see every industry do the same, but because of wars and battles ad fights, global trading is getting hurt. Like the tariffs for example Trump is doing, that's bad for USA itself, but bad for others too, because even if you can make the same money or maybe even more from other nations, you have to realize, it is going to take time and work to make that move. So simply put, we are seeing the world not being ready economically to be against each other, if we want to do better, we need to be all friendly.
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alexr4venMember
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#5Jul 25, 2024, 12:49 PM
There are benefits to this. If you have things going too well then there is no pressure to find alternative solutions. We used for example bad minerals in batteries because nobody was throwing enough money at the problem to find solutions that can do without them. With the rare metals pressure either we will get a lot more money or they will find ways to replace some of the minerals by other things or a combination of both will happen. Groundbreaking tech out of China? They have made a lot of improvements that is true, but they have almost developed nothing groundbreaking. Name me 3 things. Let me hear it. You call our president a corrupt president? Fuck you. Your country is much worse than America, wherever you are located it does not matter. If your country and people were better you would be richer than us. In the same post your insult America and you want its help to protect Taiwan? We should let Taiwan be taken over and let you deal with the consequences.
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cipher404Full Member
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#6Jul 25, 2024, 02:10 PM
It's becomes more evident that global supply chains and geopolitics are inseperable the moment there's a trade restriction, political conflict the Chain reaction across boarders and industries spreads. Let's think of the world supply chain as a fragile network that are closely  interconnected and constantly moving. Just one political decision be it about tariffs or war,can snap a thread and send a tremors through the entire network and also we have seen this with energy supplies during conflicts and global chip shortage caused by trade tension. Essentially the geopolitics keeps throwing wrenches into the machinery of global trade. Because as a nation becomes more competitive, these disruptions are no longer exceptions but they are the new normal. I will say that in today's world that are interconnected political power don't just plays to shape politics, but they shape what makes it's way to our markets,homes and lives.
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nova_2019Senior Member
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#7Jul 25, 2024, 05:16 PM
This is why the world needs shorter supply chains. If the western countries need something, they shouldn't buy it from China, when there's an alternative in a country that isn't so hostile. The problem is that the western world did nothing to prevent China from building it's enormous industrial capacity and training a skilled workforce. Why? Because those big western corporations wanted bigger profits, so they outsourced everything to China. After several decades of outsourcing, the world would become totally dependent on China for high tech stuff and the Chinese would charge a premium for their products and services. Capitalism and geopolitics collide every once in a while, and this is the time, where a war could happen.
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ryanbyteMember
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#8Jul 25, 2024, 07:06 PM
The tariff hike Donald Trump's administration placed on china is too high, he is directly making it look like his pocking into their eyes, most of the electronics used in the US and many parts of the world is produced in china, Trump would have quietly built American productivity base to some level, before lashing out on china, this move will simply increase prices in America because they depend a lot on China for production.
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luckyapeFull Member
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#9Jul 25, 2024, 08:37 PM
You've put your finger on something many firms are now grappling with: the era of "just‑in‑time everywhere" is over. In response to trade wars, companies are diversifying production and adopting "friend‑shoring". They're moving critical manufacturing to allied nations or back onshore altogether. Japan's 243‑billion yen subsidy programme for relocating high‑tech supply chains home and the EU's efforts to build domestic chip plants are some examples that come to mind.
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#10Jul 28, 2024, 08:02 AM
In question of the EU don't take the announcements for reality. The EU lives in a dream world, overly bureaucratic with absolutely no sense for reality.
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alexr4venMember
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#11Jul 28, 2024, 10:40 AM
Somehow I missed this response. Globalization was junk. It did not lead to lower consumer prices. Companies were creating unstable supply chains all in order to save a few % per product which went to the richest. The savings did not increase wages and neither have they lowered prices. A huge systemic risk was created solely to make the richer even more rich. Normal people had few benefits from this. Drop Shipping is a scam anyway and it should die. So much rebranded Chinese junk can be found on retailers these days. These are the benefits of globalization? I get to pay American prices for Chinese junk goods?  Yeah, the EU is a terrible place these days. If they did not have generational wealth due to historical events they would have nothing. Their leaders are stealing worse than African politicians.
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#12Jul 29, 2024, 01:10 PM
It is easy to overlook a post, especially if you just fly over long quotes.   Globalization served big corp well, they took over, or bought out national industries a dime a dozen all in the name of Globalization. Drop shipping can be done well but in face of tariffs it is not that easy any more. Western Politician steal far less than most people believe. They get kick backs, inside information, give pals contracts (and receive kick backs) so there is no need to steal or embezzle public funds. The EU is a really good place for the illegal immigrant, they still come by the shipload.
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sigma_satoshiFull Member
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#13Jul 31, 2024, 06:57 PM
And there's no permanent enemy or alliance in geopolitics. But with this leaders, it's best to put the best interest of their country rather than their political agenda and ambitions. Some leaders are doing these alliances for their own interest and want to prolong their leadership based on what kind of government they have. but I agree that it's inevitable that the strategic alliances is important from the neighboring countries that don't want to meddle with any of these physical wars and as well as economical wars that these super giants can do globally.
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king2011Full Member
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#14Jul 31, 2024, 11:53 PM
The complexity of international relations, characterized by the tug-of-war of interests between elites, national regulations, market dynamics, and geopolitical resistance, is evident in diplomatic strategies. The concentration of wealth among a small elite opens the door for them to influence, regulate, and even shape the trade system. This is evident in the acquisition of strategic infrastructure (container terminals, port operational services). Furthermore, the practice of imposing surcharges to make certain routes more competitive. The majority of shipping companies operate online with a centralized global server, making data easily controlled and accessible for lobbying. Many countries are now focusing on establishing sovereign wealth funds to finance transportation corridors (railways, ports) that can transform trade routes and regional interdependence. The most visible is pressure and lobbying on regulators, using bilateral or multilateral agreements to provide additional benefits. Geopolitical and geoeconomic reactions are leading to separation and reduced interaction. Each bloc is initiating reshoring/friendshoring, minimizing or eliminating foreign investment in critical assets, and creating data inconsistencies. This results in increased transaction and investment costs, thickening the supply chain but making it less efficient, but opening up opportunities for domestic and local actors. The impact on a country's macroeconomy is inflation caused by dependence on the supply of goods and services controlled by entities that monopolize capacity, thus increasing logistics and import costs, which pass through to inflation. Free trade brings foreign capital investment in logistics infrastructure, progressing but mortgaging sovereignty during crises. A country's high infrastructure capital market impacts asset valuations and the flow of institutional investor capital. On the positive side, it creates local manufacturing and logistics jobs.
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sigma_satoshiFull Member
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#15Aug 1, 2024, 02:21 AM
That's a good take and I agree that due to the major businesses that's being owned by entities or private corporations, they're the ones dictating the price increases of their goods and services that results to inflation. It's a domino effect where it all starts from crude oil and then all that uses it which is almost everything is getting more expensive so it equals to inflation. I think that a country's debt is also playing a huge part. Most of the countries now are indebted to the world bank or other countries like China and in return, they're getting the favor of having some territory that seems valuable to them which contains the likes of minerals. A country that sustains almost everything for their citizens is a powerful one and even if there will be a global crisis, they've foreseen it coming and prepared for it as they're secured starting from food, logistics, manufacturing and all resources that a country needs. Not relying to another country is possible but almost every country needs a foreign investment to come in to keep some industries running.
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bridge100Senior Member
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#16Aug 1, 2024, 06:14 AM
To be fair all these wars are also a reason why things are getting a reset. We can't live in a world of "peace" by just keeping the status quo forever. Because if we do, then the rich will continue to get richer at a stable rate, and poor will stay poor. It is not the geo-politics getting jumbled up that is the problem, that is human nature, ever since we were cavement, we would attack others caves, that's just how it has been and unfortunately that is the human nature. However, if we are talking about figuring out a way to get things reset, then this is the way. Ukraine for example has suffered so much, and so did Russia, and Palestine, and Israel, and all of them are living in a world that is economically "different" than what it used to be.
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alexr4venMember
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#17Aug 1, 2024, 06:52 AM
Too many noise posts, sometimes good posts get overlooked. It would be better if threads had fewer posts but they were better. It served the worst of us the most, I agree. It is not that hard to pull off a scam like this. You have to go with systemic buyout and corruption of universities and economic experts, think thanks and all the other useless institutions that don't do anything productively. Then you get your scam theory in, peer reviewed by countless current experts and the remaining reputable experts won't go against it to avoid ruining their academic prospects. That's how the current most used economic theories came to be. Yes, but it is often a scam. You pay western price for a cheap product that comes from china. Absolutely. The EU is one of the most corrupt places on the planet at all levels of the government. Just because there is mo wealth there so the impact of stealing is smaller that does not mean that it is not as bad or worse than in many places of the world. I like when they come out with that corruption index per countries and give good scores to their own countries.
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