Global leaders playing with the market through the Iran conflict

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tonydegenFull Member
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#1Nov 22, 2018, 06:44 PM
buying the dip First step: start peace talks Next: open up Hormuz Then: watch the markets rise >hit that sell button Fourth step: Iran pulls back from the peace deal Fifth: close off Hormuz again Sixth: markets crash >buy the dip again >keep doing this from step 1 >it's too easy.exe Is anyone else noticing how world leaders and insiders are clearly making bank through all these back-and-forth market swings every couple of weeks?
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#2Nov 22, 2018, 07:34 PM
They've always done it. They just didn't used to brag about it.
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node_walletSenior Member
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#3Nov 23, 2018, 12:35 AM
FUD have always worked on weak hands, when they hear any negative news about the market they will panic and sell off their assets so that it won't dump on them and they wouldn't lose their hard earned money. Whales position themselves to take advantage of the manipulations to buy up what is dumped on the market at cheap rate and soon enough it will create scarcity which will increase price. Whether the world leaders that makes the decisions that affects the market to cause FUD are in on the market manipulation to also gain is another matter entirely but I know that insiders who knows about news before they break will take advantage of negative fundamentals to enrich themselves. Something must start a market manipulation, it is strait of Hormuz presently, another manipulation will be schemed from another event that will still affect the market. If you're holding a store of value like gold and Bitcoin you don't have to worry about FUD because if the value dip it will recover and eventually reach ATH.
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oracle365Full Member
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#4Nov 23, 2018, 06:07 AM
The market is being manipulated and maybe the knowledge of that the market is manipulated can help you not to be manipulated. I think most investors will become used to this strategy from world leaders who are manipulating the market to their benefits and will become less reactive to situations that they usually use to react to.   We will get to that time where there will little or no move in the market with such events.
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real_pixelSenior Member
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#5Nov 23, 2018, 09:18 AM
We're starting to see it, and this is literally why there's money in wars. But it's a different thing now, not with arms sale but with the market manipulation. I just hope that they'll get hired with all of these things that they do, from negotiations to changing of what they're agreeing with. They only have to pull all of the blockade in there and Iran will sign the peace treaty and everyone gets their fair share of peace and market bounce back.
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maxgasSenior Member
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#6Nov 23, 2018, 01:25 PM
I got this figured out from one of the Iranian leaders on twitter who exposed these acts from Donald Trump and the rest of the billionaires making too much profits manipulating the markets. Donald Trump has seen his net worth increase ever since he stepped into office again. This war in particular has benefited him and also the drone companies of his children. Let's see what comes out of the Mr no more nice guy turning thee seat of POTUS into a charade.
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sam.bullSenior Member
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#7Nov 23, 2018, 06:47 PM
Reminds us of the dramas with Tariff last year Now it's through the Iran and USA war. Tariff lost its impact in the market as the drama went on I believe the market would soon stop been volatile with respect to the war Just like how the Russian and Ukraine war is today.
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lonehashMember
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#8Nov 23, 2018, 08:45 PM
Those who has studied world history will tell you that the steps you presented here are not actually new but has been used in the past by the so called world leaders. The world is a place of interest and anyone who is able to sell their interest using the right circumstances will control the rest of the world. About the faceoff between Iran and the United States of America this is a well calculated attempts by the world elite to cage the rest of the global market to dance to the rhythm that they will give. This war from the beginning has been that of interest and it's obvious to everyone.
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dan.whaleFull Member
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#9Nov 24, 2018, 02:35 AM
Yeah, last year’s tariffs were a significant turning point.they likely sparked this entire situation. Between the wars and the trade shifts, it seems the government has benefited the most. I’ve been analyzing the impact of this year’s NFP and CPI data, and honestly, the markets haven't been the same since the war began and Trump’s agenda took hold. ​Wasn’t it just last year that an insider made massive profits by taking a huge position right before high impact news hit the market? It really feels like the government has its hands all over the global markets
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cipher404Full Member
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#10Nov 24, 2018, 05:36 AM
True but not all sharp moves in the market is pure manipulation but you see all this big players and news can trigger the hype and fear that makes people overreact at the end. As a trader of you start to understand this pattern, then you will understand to calm down gradually and will not rush into every headline you see. In due time those that are wise will be less emotional and that will reduce how much panic is moving price. It's only patience and clear mindset that helps not to be a victim
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benledgerSenior Member
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#11Nov 24, 2018, 11:23 AM
World Leaders? you mean Trump and his chosen few! Isnt what is happening on a weekly basis generally referred to as insider trading? Trump knows that if he says a particular thing about the Iran war he will get a reaction from the Sheep and so he plays on it. Do they not know by now that you cant trust anything he says?
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bengweiSenior Member
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#12Nov 24, 2018, 03:58 PM
The insider trading has long been going on even before the war started. It's just obvious that only those who are at the bottom are suffering much more while those at the top have longed moved their assets and positioned themselves to sway with the market. This is obviously how the rich families stay richer and the poor who lack information and connections, stay poor and broke and have to endure whatever is the result of the ongoing war.
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benledgerSenior Member
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#13Nov 24, 2018, 09:23 PM
exactly and another example of how the rich get richer at the expense of the less well off. The greed is phenomenal, not just in starting wars to thwart your economic enemies and try to grab control of energy resources but in any other way which results in financial gain regardless of the consequences of others.
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king365Full Member
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#14Nov 27, 2018, 03:09 AM
Honestly my personal view on this Middle East situation is uncomfortable but I believe it. Wars at this level do not just happen. They are allowed to happen. And they are allowed to continue for as long as they remain profitable for the right people. The moment a conflict stops generating returns  through oil, weapons contracts, reconstruction deals or market volatility  you will notice how quickly a peace agreement suddenly becomes possible. We have seen this too many times. The war ends when the business ends. Not before.
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GigaLaserFull Member
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#15Nov 27, 2018, 04:37 AM
That's what war was all about. Everything that's been destroyed and killed is just collateral damage. What's happening with the Strait of Hormuz agreements today is clearly a sign of market manipulations. Noticed a lot of oil tankers anchored in the waters, as if they are stranded because of the conflict? Nah, they are hoarding oil, avoiding all the costs of storing on land and waiting for the perfect time to sell. War is all about money, which the elites are playing like chess, while the ordinary people are the pawns.
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tom23Member
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#16Nov 27, 2018, 05:05 AM
We have seen some things in every war, such as changes in the market and changes in gold and silver, nothing more than the economy and destruction of this country. But in this war, along with all this, business is also being done and there is also destruction for many countries. By closing this route, it is difficult for many countries and this has also increased the market and the price of things in these countries. You have given a good example and this does not happen in every war, but in this war we are seeing it clearly and hopefully this agreement will be completed and the war will be stopped so that some changes will come in every country and the situation will improve. America is already better with its strength and efforts, but before this war in Iran, they will have done things that fulfill the thinking of children, such as the creation of a 10 million note in their country.
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#17Nov 28, 2018, 04:44 AM
There is huge money to be made  - hundreds of millions are changing hands - based on insider trading that seems to be happening right now, but anyone who has paid attention to how Trump has operated in business would know that he would do this, or at least surround himself with the kind of people who would. When you know that Trumps son is heavily invested in Polymarket it all makes sense. The BBC has just released an article on it and there is clear evidence what is happening - up to 45 minutes before big announces these contracts are being placed which has happened multiple times, including the earlier trade sanctions that caused big stock market movements too.
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bridge100Senior Member
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#18Nov 28, 2018, 10:32 AM
I do not think that they are doing it to manipulate the market neither. This is just Trump and Israel being dumb and nothing more. They say ceasefire, and open, and then they bomb and it's closed, it's that simple. A ceasefire is a cease fire, you cease any firing in a cease fire, that is literally the name. And then they are shocked when the strait is closed again after they do not case any fire during ceasefire. Do you realize how stupid that is? I am not one of to support Iran, I hate their regime and what they have done, but USA and Israel makes it easy to see why Iran is doing what they are doing.
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the_kingHero Member
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#19Nov 29, 2018, 01:30 PM
Overall, the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz and the current Iran war have an impact on the global economy, the Strait of Hormuz is an economic weapon, one of the fatal problems is that it causes a global supply deficit, that is certain. that doesn't mean world leaders can manipulate the crypto market, that's a different path. Iran vs. The US has an impact on the economy, but not on the crypto market, I think it has nothing to do with it, the market will be volatile depending on investors buyers and sellers not on leaders, There is no opportunity for leaders to manipulate the crypto market, like the steps you mentioned, your segment is common, there are other things that influence the crypto market.
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BasedTokenFull Member
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#20Nov 29, 2018, 04:57 PM
I think so, too. I do not know how much money politician make from manipulating markets by waging wars. But one thing I believe everyone can see is that trillions of dollars are being lost as this war unfolds. That alone shows that market manipulation sounds illogical because the cost is too high, and the consequences are beyond anyone's control. However, insider trading is unavoidable. There are likely many people close to the Trump administration taking advantage of advanced information to profit for personal gain.
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