How the Pandemic and US/Iran Tensions are Messing with the Economy

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hash2019Full Member
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#1Feb 1, 2025, 09:38 PM
So, I was connecting some dots today between COVID-19, the US, Israel, and Iran. Honestly, it feels like there's a global link between how the pandemic was handled and the rising geopolitical issues. The US chips in around 22% of the WHO's budget, which really gives them a voice. I think this influence was a factor when the WHO labeled COVID-19 as a pandemic back in March 2020. That announcement messed with the global economy, turned everyday life upside down, and made people way more aware of death rates. Some folks pointed out that tracking deaths during this time got way more attention than usual. Fast forward to February 2026, the US kicked off a conflict with Iran, saying their uranium enrichment and nuclear activities were a threat to global safety. The fighting dragged on for months, and negotiations were pretty much non-existent. From all this, I'm thinking that a handful of powerful nations, especially the US, really steer the direction of major economies and world institutions.
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raven_maxiSenior Member
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#2Feb 2, 2025, 12:19 PM
The United States of America no longer sponsors the WHO that is a big blow to the WHO as we have seen the effect of that decision on how the current break of Ebola virus is been handled, the world health organisation was really benefiting from the United States of America sponsorship and all that ended because the US felt fowl play in how the world health organisation handled the COVID 19 situation so for sure the United States felt who was being manipulated by another country so not everything is influenced by the United States of America.
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cipher404Full Member
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#3Feb 2, 2025, 02:20 PM
I will say that powerful countries definitely has more influence in global affairs, but the important thing let's just separate influence from total control and major world events usually involves alot of factors, actors and interests and not just one institution or country. Most times decisions by international organisations can align with the nations that are powerful, but that don't mean that everything is well coordinated secretly. That's why evidence and critical thinking is very important whenever we do analyze complex global events.
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maxbridgeFull Member
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#4Feb 2, 2025, 05:44 PM
Aside the influence illustrated about the US government over the COVID-19 pandemic that disrupted the global economy to the severe nature of economy depression, the US had already been at the topmost of the influencing the global economy and geopolitics significantly as they are also the world power. They aslo maintains a robust global military and international affairs. So with all these being pointed out and undoubted, the US dominates major factors of the global systems.
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#5Feb 4, 2025, 03:12 PM
They handled Covid badly and in view of the worlds state, i'm more in favor of letting diseases run its course, which would make human kind stronger although lesser in numbers.
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vault_gasFull Member
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#6Feb 4, 2025, 06:47 PM
This literally serves the golden billion theory, which is part of the conspiracy theory that says that global pandemics are intentionally made to reduce the global population as much as possible. What happened is that the Covid pandemic proved the weakness of the United States health care system despite its high level of technological development. The coronavirus killed many people around the world, including those supposedly adopting that conspiracy theory, which causes it to fail from the outset.
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sigma07Senior Member
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#7Feb 4, 2025, 11:27 PM
For so many wars, they do. In all generations that people were born, they always play a part of most of the wars. And I hate to say it that this will never stop because as they say, when there's a war there's money in it. Not only about the war but whatever loot they can take from the countries that they're staying in.
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ledger777Member
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#8Feb 5, 2025, 05:09 AM
These powerful countries like United States, have a very great influence on international organizations and on the global affairs of the world but that does not mean that COVID 19 or the other Geo-political conflicts were created on purpose to disturb the economy of the world, the world health organization declared covid-19 a pandemic because the corona virus was spreading very speedily across the multiple continents across the globe and million of peoples were getting affected by it and at that time there was no cure to it. The conflict going on that is involving Iran is basically not at random affair but it is a long standing conflict that was going on over the regional security, their own nuclear activities and their political interest but there main purpose was never the economic destruction. These major powers have a great influence on the global institution and their affairs but infl1uence and the control are  not the same thing.
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ninja_viperFull Member
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#9Feb 5, 2025, 09:56 AM
As long as it's humans running a particular position, expect corruption and mismanagement, this is something I keep saying but that shouldn't mean we'd carry our frustrations of their misbehavior and wish something of that nature continues. Tbh, I don't know if the COVID-19 disease is real because the symptoms are too similar with when you're down with the flu so it's kinda confusing whether they used our heads or if we just let fear take the front seat.
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humblefarmSenior Member
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#10Feb 6, 2025, 06:33 AM
The US and its allies are free to act without respect for international laws. The can attack any country and killing citizens without seeing anything wrong with it. They will always classify these invasions of other nations as a just cause. But they are swift to condemn other countries that do the same thing. If it were China that invaded Taiwan and kidnapped its President, the US would have called it several atrocious names. Trump thought he could cause regime change in Iran, but he failed woefully, showing that they are not as strong as they portray.
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0xN0nceSenior Member
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#11Feb 6, 2025, 07:09 AM
From what I have read in the news, war often generates revenue, which is a compelling explanation for why nations need to print more money and purchase artillery or other forms of power that can help them win the war. It's really hard to speculate, but there is some real evidence that the public health was at risk back then during the COVID-19 pandemic. The world economics shows the impact and recession data. For geopolitics, it might be a different thing. There should be credible evidence for sure because it's hard to just speculate.
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#12Feb 6, 2025, 10:10 AM
Your conclusion is dumb - at least in comparing these two events and the amount of influence that the US had when it came to the first worldwide pandemic in almost a century. Yes, America has started a nonsensical war against Iran, but that was purely a distraction to the non stop flood of Epstein news that even Trump's stupid tweeting could not stem. They claim to be finalizing a deal to end it right now which should give a bump back to the economy if it does go through, but nobody can ever trust a Trump deal since he changes his mind like the wind. However Covid was nothing that the US or any other country could contain quick enough and it paralyzed the world for at least a couple years, yet the source of that was China however much they try to cover that fact up.
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0xChadFull Member
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#13Feb 6, 2025, 12:15 PM
I mean I hear you. The frustration is long overdue. US are certainly running things out of proportion. However, WHO was late with the COVID declaration. The situation was already falling apart in Italy. Hospitals overflowing. The virus did not need to ask anyone's permission to spread. And the US was fighting with WHO the entire time?? Trump cut funding, called them China puppets. Then, officially withdrew in January this year. Therefore, the notion that there was some scheme going on between Washington and Geneva is untrue. But Iran is not a mystery, and it is another thing. In 2018, JCPOA was killed without a replacement. Enrichment went up. Diplomacy dried out. And then February happened. There is no need to have some hidden agenda when you explain why a nuclear standoff eventually goes at you. The US does not need to plan disruptions. All it takes is if it acts carelessly in self-interest, and then the disruptions occur.
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BasedGasHero Member
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#14Feb 6, 2025, 12:39 PM
Thank you lord for giving us the wisdom. This surely opens the eyes of many. US is getting benefits from this war, they took over Venezuela before they started this conflict with Iran so they can disrupt the Oil supply of most of the countries, which gives them some leverage to make more money and stay relevant while they have the required oil supply from down south. They can stay the super power with the influence and US is still showing who is the big bully, maybe someone will take over the place in the next 50 years but the concept of the game remains the same.
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cybergasFull Member
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#15Feb 6, 2025, 03:12 PM
No, it was not a usual form of a normal Flu. Covid and the Flu may have same symptoms, but that doesn't mean the same disease. Doctors have conducted tests and diagnosis to determine which one it is. It also spread differently than a normal flu afaik. Also, the effects were much severe than a normal flu season with many people getting very sick and died. It took only a few days for my uncle to die in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. So the Covid is very real...
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ryangangMember
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#16Feb 6, 2025, 07:54 PM
This is a bit more cultural and a lot less about human nature. Do you think Norway, Sweden, or even Korea, are managed without any corruption at all? There are some nice countries, hell you could consider even big nations like USA or China, where corruption is rampant. And yet, they are still better nations than most other smaller nations, I am not going to name any countries as "bad poor country" because it would be very rude to say that, but you can assume any country you think of when you think of a poor country. Those have corruption too, and yet one is better, the other is poor.
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its_cipherSenior Member
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#17Feb 7, 2025, 12:08 AM
Well, the covid pandemic rather followed in line with Klaus Schwab's globalism as a dress rehearsal for a digital concentration camp, when millions of people, like obedient sheep, were injected with some kind of rubbish with incomprehensible consequences. It was also tested how to intimidate the population to the point of complete despair so that they even entered the store using a QR code. Whereas the US wars are simply a redistribution of the oil market, with the aim of complete control over this resource. To some extent, this is also globalism, but of a slightly different nature than globalism, which created an artificial pandemic from a virus grown in a laboratory.
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nova_2019Senior Member
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#18Feb 7, 2025, 05:59 AM
Wow, you are a genius. Who would've thought that the current global super power has big influence over the global economy and geopolitics. Any other genius discoveries? The water is wet? The sun is shining? The wind is blowing? Try to impress us Captain Obvious. It seems that you are giving the World Health Organization way more power and authority that it actually has. What are you suggesting? The WHO should've never declared COVID a pandemic and no countries around the world would've impose lockdowns back in 2020-2021? I believe that the lockdowns would still be imposed, even if the WHO didn't declare COVID as a "danger to the existence of the human kind". Back in 2020, Trump was still a president of the US and he didn't like the WHO at all. He also didn't like all the lockdowns. Are you suggesting that the USA started the pandemic? Do you have any evidence to prove this conspiracy theory?
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#19Feb 7, 2025, 11:14 AM
Covid  heavy Flu with harsh symptoms plus fear. Most people are aware they eat trash, but bad food is cheap and convenient.
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raven07Full Member
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#20Feb 7, 2025, 01:01 PM
Basically no war will be fought without profit especially for a country that is already very independent and large in scope and don't forget that they are very thirsty capitalists.   Wars with such involvement will certainly be very profitable, and it has been the stage of world drama for a long time, and no one dares to slap their faces, because they are very powerful for a long time, this is something that the world has continuously witnessed, but can only be silent.   There is also a game of supply and demand, because in global scale management there needs to be conflict as a trigger so that all actions are considered correct.
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