Poverty isn’t just some random thing. It’s actually set up on purpose by governments to keep us in check. They control the minimum wage, inflation, taxes, and education. All of this can be twisted to create poverty. If you don’t believe me, just take a look around you.
Banks really hit the poor hard while giving the wealthy more opportunities. That’s definitely one way to see poverty as a man-made issue. Plus, the education system is made to churn out employees instead of encouraging entrepreneurship. Even religion has been a tool for control over people.
Then along comes Bitcoin, trying to shake things up a bit. So let’s get real for a second. Can anyone show me a time in history where poverty just happened naturally, or has it always been created on purpose?
Human Choices Create Poverty
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wallet_satMember
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#2Oct 5, 2021, 08:08 PM
Youre not wrong by saying that poor policies, inflation, weak education systems, unfair policies and many others has the potential to keep many people in poverty and of course make the rich to benefit more from such system. However, the idea that poverty is entirely designed isnt entirely true because there are several other factors and occurrences that could contribute to poverty, such as wars, economic collapse and a few others, these factors are not entirely controlled by an elite group but a product of a decision made by a few people.
There is a popular saying that after God is the government, which means they control almost everything for their own benefit. If you also look into it, without poverty, it becomes difficult to govern people. The idea of poverty is ingrained in peoples minds from childhood. That is why, even in schools, there are systems for the rich and systems for the poor. The rich are often taught how to become entrepreneurs, while the poor are taught how to become employees. This is a system that cant be changed unless you find a way to escape it.
Furthermore, the fact that Bitcoin is decentralized still will not make everyone rich. There are some people who do not trust it, and there are others who cant hold it even after buying it. There are also people who believe it is better for them to work and earn money than to invest in Bitcoin. So, you cannot make everyone rich or change the system for everyone.
Honestly, the government policies are not to make the masses rich, but to put you under control, and that is why people who work in government sectors hardly get enriched. Like what some persons does, when you are working under them, they will want to keep you stagnant, and pay you very small amount of money as salary, but the only way you can be free from such situation is when you decide to set up your own personal business, and become independent. As an entrepreneur, more especially as a bigginer, it will definitely take you some time to build your own business, but once you are able to build it, you are definitely taking yourself out of poverty.
eric.wizardFull Member
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#5Oct 6, 2021, 02:47 AM
Poverty is a state of an individual who is poor in taking decisions, especially critical issues that has to do with choices. So poverty is is as a result of our handwork, for anyone to break free from poverty then such a person should make sure that he or she should be smart when it comes to making decisions. Poor choices and decisions is what defines a poor man because in terms of his thinking faculty the poor man has nothing to offer.
There is obviously no doubt that those in power wouldn't want others to have power as well and become their competitors, and the same thing applies to those who are wealthy, because they want to stay wealthy and don't want others around them to reach their level, and for this reason, they will only use them for their own benefit, they will use the money and power they have to make more money and become more powerful. Those who are poor can't easily get out of their situation because it's not easy to make money without money.
You mentioned about banks charging from the poor and giving liquity or leverage to the wealthy, I just want to say that they are all doing what they need to do in order to make more money. A bank or any other institution cannot make money from a poor, so they have to please the rich and wealthy because they know they are going to use their services and then they also get to make money because of that.
In my country, the poor can no longer afford to send their children to higher institution any more because the new administration came in and remove subsidy from education which was helping the poor then to send their children to school. Currently, the system is designed to only favor the rich because we don't have middle class people any more. It's either, you are poor or rich. The rich will only be fined when they do something against the government wish but the poor will be sent to jail.
The government create and implement all the above mentioned policies to be able to control the people which they have achieved all over. Before the introduction of the government human at some point are lazy that give room for poverty, if someone has is satisfied with the life style he or she is living this can really lead to poverty. The difference between the rich and the poor is that the rich are willing to extend there boundaries for a more complex flow of income while the poor is ok with where the are then with time they bocome stocked.
I agree with this but when based on economic standards that always require the poor and the rich in the end this condition cannot be changed so that when the government does anything to design everything that is considered unfair especially for those in the lower economy then we cannot do anything to make this a justice in the government's point of view because all that can be done is to survive and try to change it yourself.
Bitcoin has always been considered an answer for some people but for those who are poor sometimes there are some things they cannot get in terms of resources, not just about money but knowledge so that only a small percentage of poor people will talk about bitcoin than those rich people because they do not have more resources or privileges than people whose economic conditions are much better. Even if they know it will ultimately be very difficult for poor people to achieve the standard of financial freedom that makes them free from poverty.
There is no doubt about Bitcoin changing the system and defeating the traditional financial system that have been in favor of the wealthy.
I think even in the past like the Egyptians have been kings of the worlds and they have slaves to feed who were the construction workers of their pyramids.
Poverty is already in the system since time immemorial.
A corrupt government impoverishes its people, i can agree with that. They wouldn't just make them poor in terms of monetary needs, but poor in standard of living, basic amenities, infrastructure, healthcare and by extension, life expectancy, et cetera.Banks charge everybody that uses their service. And they do not only offer loans to the wealthy.
If you mean bitcoin came to make people rich, then you are wrong. Except you were a miner when you could still mine on your computer and you have been hodling the coins you mined since then, chances of you getting rich through bitcoin is not that great.
Let's say poverty is orchestrated by men who are in power positions. How do they do this? Through populism (panem et circenses).
However, populism isn't enforced to anyone. It's a manipulative strategy to control the masses, but the masses decide being part of it after all.
Free will plays a big role here. So, poverty isn't only orchestrated by men. It's willingly embraced by the poor class. If people in general just gave a big no to the media, political class and all of their agents, it would be possible to overcome poverty and pursue better life conditions for society as a whole.
Even in countries where the economic policies are good, and the government is doing well, You will still find people who are poor and this is because poverty sometimes is as a result of personal choices and decisions you have made, because there are in people who have lots of opportunities that they are exposed to but because of their lack of action and how comfortable they are in the position they're in They refused to take action and make full use of the opportunity that they have in front of them This is why they remain poor mainly as a result of their own man decisions not because of the government.
Yep. Poverty is designed to keep the elite at the top and yeah it has always been orchestrated by someone we call the government, and they are working for the elites.
However, about the education system, there's a half truth about most of us being taught not to run out own business but to be a slave for someone. But, being an employee should always be the first and easiest step to follow, especially for the majority born poor or at the middle class, that's why it's being taught at school first so we can acquire not only the resources to start on our own but the experience and knowledge. Everything after that, we should act and learn on our own. We should not get stuck being an employee for the rest of our lives, or juggle between being an employee and entrepreneur.
Can't think of any but it sure is when people become lazy and depends on government's assistance most of the time. Here in our country, the government doesn't provide fishing rods to poor people, they simply hand over cooked fishes to them. People got deceived about it as if their lives depends on it, and these politicians kept winning at the election by doing the same thing over and over, because poor people has always have greater number than the rest.
wolf_falconMember
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#15Oct 7, 2021, 12:07 PM
The government will formulate rules and policies according to their convenience and they will always want to control the people of the country. Due to their various decisions, many times the general public can face financial problems. But if the government really creates problems due to any decision and if people start becoming poor due to that, then it will apply to everyone. In that case, some people in the same country are poor and some people are rich. Those who have high income have earned their income with their own qualifications and ability to take risks. And those who do not have income and cannot do business or any kind of job are actually not qualified themselves. But in this case, the government should create employment organizations. In that case, all kinds of people can be given job opportunities.
boss_wizardSenior Member
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#16Oct 7, 2021, 12:58 PM
Looking from other perspective, poverty was more common than riches throughout the ages, only lately we have the data to present statistic between the poor and the rich but historically speaking our society has always been a pyramid, ruler and riches at the top and peasant at the bottom.
Is it really poverty orchestrated by man when that is the case or poverty is natural to the hierarchy of society which means making everybody rich is impossible?
rocket_matrixFull Member
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#17Oct 7, 2021, 04:05 PM
I think it is not so simple that poverty is completely designed or everything is natural one of these two has to be chosen. There are certainly many policies of the government or powerful system that put the middle class and poor people under more pressure such as inflation, unfair taxation, corruption or low wage structure. There is no denying that the wealth gap increases due to these but at the same time there are many countries in history that have managed education policy and economic reform properly and have been able to reduce poverty a lot. So I think the problem is not just a hidden plan to control people but rather a mix result of bad governance, greed unequal opportunities and weak systems because if poverty was completely planned then some countries in the same world would not have been able to reduce poverty and some countries would not have struggled for decades.
From what I have studied before about economics, there is a natural driver of poverty.
Scarcity of resourcesCapital accumulation gapProductivity differences
So it depends on the country and who is ruling it, but if there's inequality and a lack of basic needs, there would be poverty. The governance quality has a hand in it all. It's about good governance.
This is what some people don't understand about inflation that is making them to blame government for spreading inflation in their country, government and citizens can cause inflation that will make the whole country to experience hardship that will make some of them to start leaving the country to another country to experience a good life, and I have seen or heard such situations like that until their government and citizens agreed together to make some law that will make government officials not to touch or spend government resources to their own business before they began to experience good economic, Any country that is experiencing a long inflation in their country, I think this two category of people government officials and citizens hands is on it because it will not take government some months to eliminate inflation which is the cause of poverty and other things in any nation.
humblefarmSenior Member
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#20Oct 8, 2021, 08:37 AM
I share your thoughts in some areas. Politicians in my country intentionally make people poor so that they can manipulate them during elections. These poor people could sell their votes for peanuts. Apart from a few courses in the university others are just irrelevant. The rich have different means to evade taxes, while the poor must pay taxes.
But my reservation with your post is that Bitcoin is not the solution to poverty. It could help to make people control their financial decisions but for now, you need money to buy it. The poor cannot afford to buy and hold Bitcoin. Not everyone will become entrepreneurs. So education should produce creative and open minded professional that can be productive in any sector they choose to be.
Religion has its merits and demerits. But religion fanatism has caused more harm than good. When people follow manipulative religious teaching, they end up becoming dummies ready to be used by corrupt political and religious leaders.
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