I found a neat method for dollar-cost averaging (DCA) that I think is pretty solid. After looking into it for a bit, I realized it might actually be safer and more effective than just buying a little BTC from an exchange regularly.
So, here's the deal: use either an old or a new bank account, but don't hook it up to any debit cards, alerts, bank apps, or USSD codes if you're in a country that uses those. Make sure that withdrawing cash requires you to show up in person at the bank.
After stashing away some cash in the bank for a while, you can go in every few months to withdraw it and then use that cash to buy BTC directly from a reliable exchange. From there, send it to a cold wallet for holding, and keep up with your DCA plan until you've reached your goal. Just a heads up, it might work best if you keep this method under wraps from your partners or close friends.
So, have you guys found any better ways to DCA your BTC for the long haul? If you have, share your tips! And if not, do you think my method is worth considering for a long-term DCA strategy?
Also, are there any potential issues you see that could pop up when trying out this DCA method?
My personal approach to DCAing
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mr_satoshiSenior Member
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#2Jun 30, 2017, 07:45 PM
It is very possible that while trying to withdraw these so that you can invest in Bitcoin, you run into a personal or family emergency that requires financing, and then you become forced to use some or all of this money you have piled up to sort out that emergency.
Investing is never easy, and there will most times be obstacles to your plans; this is why I feel buying directly in any amount you can buy is smarter than waiting to accumulate the money first.
real_laserFull Member
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#3Jul 1, 2017, 04:29 AM
Everyone's DCA method may be different. Investing is truly difficult. You make a plan to buy regularly every month, and that plan can fall apart after a while. You might stop investing, or you might have to use up your investments. No matter what, you need to try to ignore it. It might also be better to save cash for emergencies.
I set aside money for other needs rather than dipping into Bitcoin funds. It's still not easy, though, because you know there's money out thereBitcoinand it's easily accessible.
Is this not a long process? Why not connect your bank account to your exchange so that you can buy whenever the due date scheduled to buy reaches.
There are many new ways of DCAing with many mobile apps. I know of a tat-trader app that buys Bitcoin for you automatically. You only need to set your DCA information's like; date to buy, portfolio name, amount to buy, and longevity or duration of the investment. This way you dont always have to do it manually. The app does it automatically for you.
hodler_b34rFull Member
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#5Jul 2, 2017, 08:41 AM
Your strategy includes two steps: the first step is saving your money in a bank account; the second step is claiming, withdrawing it at the counter and using it for buying bitcoin quarterly.
Basically, it's your DCA practice but it's risky and I will explain below.
The biggest pitfall is depending on bank to keep your money in bank account safely each quarter. 3 months is not a long time but not a short time and if you are unlucky, that bank can have a bankruptcy within 3 months.
To avoid this pitfall, a better practice is withdraw your money from bank, save it in your home, and use your money for purchasing bitcoins quarterly. It's a better DCA strategy by eliminating risk of bank account and money there.
Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts
hodler2019Legendary
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#6Jul 2, 2017, 01:50 PM
My question is I go to my bank and pull 2000 usd out what btc exchange takes cash?
In the USA you would never want to do your idea.
The best way to DCA in the USA is open a PayPal account. then in the pay pal account open a bank account. The PayPal usa insured account pays 3.8%
So say you have 12000 in the PayPal bank account section set up an auto btc buy. say 250 a week in 48weeks it is almost all btc. only some interests is left.
then get a cold wallet and move 1/2 the btc in it.
then get 2 more cold wallets and move 1/4 and 1/4 in it.
Hodl the 3 cold wallets.
set up a new dca with PayPal 12,000 in 250 a week.
do this for 5 years in a row. all that btc is fully traceable and can be proven that you purchased it from PayPal. zero issues cashing it out.
orbit_rocketFull Member
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#7Jul 2, 2017, 06:47 PM
Again, it's about someone who has low self control.
Even you make it as complicated as you can, once you need the money, you will use it no matter how many steps to access the money.
There's no need to have an old bank/new account which the withdrawal require physical appearance and don't have a mobile banking/debit card. I don't see any more strategy in DCA other than having an exchange that instantly buy a specific amount of Bitcoin every week/biweekly/month.
What I know it's Face to Face trade and many people see that isn't a safe way to buy Bitcoin due to risk of $5 wrench attack.
People can try your strategy to see if that works for them. But they should have their own strategy rather than just copy other people because the situation is different and they don't have the same amount that they want to use for their investment.
You can use many ways to DCA Bitcoin. But the method will not be the same because everything is not the same. They should adjust the money by themselves especially on the amount of money they will use.
DCA has already proven itself as a powerful strategy for replenishing Bitcoin wallet reserves without regard to price, and it's also stress-free. Therefore, it's suitable for absolutely everyone. I believe it's an excellent accumulation method because once you get started, it's rewarding to see your deposit continually growing due to new inflows, while traders are losing money.
Of course, we investors know that the source of capital we will use for any crypto assets in this field is still something we worked hard for, put effort into, and spent time and resources on. That's why when all investors decide to invest, they have no other desire than to get an ROI (Return on Investment) on the capital they will use.
That's why the DCA (Dollar-Cost Averaging) method is truly a good way to go if we think long-term about the assets we want to acquire. Well, of course, Bitcoin is a given as a good long-term investment; the only debate is among the other top altcoins that are good for the long-term.
To use DCA as an investment strategy comes with ease, because it renders you the opportunity of getting into the market at every comfortable rate and market situation for buying as affordable by you, then holding it, some will mostly say that we buy the dip and hodl, this comes as a result of a continues market speculations, seeing the opportunity on buying when the market falls and holding to when it pumps at your desirable rate before selling.
humblefarmSenior Member
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#12Jul 3, 2017, 04:33 AM
Most banks are backed by deposit insurance companies. Depositor's will always get back their funds if the bank goes bankrupt since they have reserve funds in Central Banks.
Keeping money at home is more risky because it could be stolen or can be destroyed during any incident like fire outbreaks. You can be also tempted to use spend the money since it is easily accessible at home.
If you want to store Bitcoin for a long time according to the DCA method, you must face various dangers, but for this we must be careful about each of us separately. If a person who has been holding Bitcoin for a long time following the DCA strategy forms an emergency fund, then the danger is greatly reduced, because any danger from any direction can actually be prevented by the emergency fund.
But those who do not form an emergency fund are basically facing danger and cannot go far with their Bitcoin holding, some things can only be eliminated by adopting strategies if the strategies are known. If you invest in Bitcoin with an emergency fund and prudent income, then it will definitely be possible to sustain it for a long time.
Personally I dont see the need for me to actually first accumulate my fiat currency first before actually buying bitcoin with it except if the fiat savings is way too small and the exchange available to me doesnt permit purchase or withdraw of such low amount if I buy the bitcoin worth that amount. Aside the issue of self control which is that I might use the money when any little thing comes up, there are many other factors like keeping your fiat currency means more exposure to inflation or devaluation as we all know how fiat currencies are to this factors.
Also delaying purchasing bitcoin also takes away the chances of getting some discount prices, todays bitcoin price might actually be the least price you might meet it again. So the risk of waiting for some days to buy is there, for me once the money is available one should simply just buy thats a proper DCA method. Bitcoin can be bought in different unit fractions upto as a low as Less than $10 depending on the exchange
Why should I delay the purchase? This could reduce the profit margin a lot. If you can't control your emotions, then bitcoin itself isn't the right choice because the price can go for 120K to 101K in less than an hour, imagine one with no self-control at that situation. But people are free to do in their own way but advocating that is effective doesn't feel right to me.
It's curious you use the word "divulge" like you're sharing some miraculous secret, yet dollar cost averaging has been around in all it's forms including this one for a long time. I'd say to get the best averaging you want to be doing it at shorter intervals like a month, especially as you might miss a dip or correction if you only do it every 3 months. It's generally good advice to not share with close friends or associates, because you might just breed envy unnecessarily but I'd expect it's normal for most people to be open with their partner. The stuff about having a bank account with restrictions is a bit bizarre, because if you're in an investing mindset you'll understand the value of money and saving, so shouldn't need some layer of external control in front of your cash.
calmfalconSenior Member
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#17Jul 4, 2017, 02:05 AM
Why need of something like this?
I mean it can stay digitally on your bank app, and as long as you do not spend it, you do not spend it.
In my country the banks offer a "vault" for you, it is not really a vault itself, it is just a drawer that can be locked, but like bunch of them, a wall to wall version.
So you can save money and put in that and then after a while you can take it out and buy bitcoin with that. So the logic is similar, you CAN do it, but why would you do it?
The only thing that this version changes from the normal DCA that we know is the fact that you can't withdraw anytime you want. That is not really a smart move and I would highly suggest not doing it, it would not make sense to do something like this.
It's fine to do that strategy that you'll save first in your bank account before buying Bitcoin. I think that its essence is that you're going to have at least a quite bigger amount of money before buying.
But, this type of DCA is going to take you a while compared that you have the money ready and you don't have to put it to your bank account and you can directly buy it with the exchanges that you're using.
That saves you from waiting because you'll never know how high or low it will be. You're in luck if by the time you decide to buy is lower but what if you've been waiting for so long and it just keeps on rising?
I think investing in the DCA method means continuing to invest for the long term while being mentally stable. And mentality is very important in long term investing. If investment causes me mental stress, then I will not be able to continue this investment for a long time. In this case, we have to invest money that will not affect our life if lost and that money that will not cause us to lack money for any of our needs. Financial arrangements are very important in long term investing. In addition, an emergency fund is needed. So that in case of any danger, my investment does not have to be broken. Also, when the market falls, many people withdraw from investment. So first set a goal mentally that for how many years you will continue your investment, in this case, you should continue to invest mentally stable without worrying about the rise and fall of prices. And of course, it will benefit you in the long term.
whale_chainFull Member
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#20Jul 4, 2017, 06:11 PM
I don't think banks will allow customers to open new accounts without issuing debit cards. While USSD codes and mobile apps can be optional, most banks still encourage their use since they earn from mobile transactions.
At the end of the day, everyone's discipline level is different what works for one person might not work for another, so it's best we all explore and find a system that best suits our individual habits and financial goals.
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