The Philosophy Behind Money

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paul.stakeHero Member
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#1Mar 13, 2024, 01:08 PM
I've got this idea that if metaphysics is legit and I'm convinced it is then money acts as the link between reality and the metaphysical world. Money isn't just a simple exchange. It has this karmic vibe. When you earn a decent living by helping others, you not only enjoy life but also appreciate the wealth you’ve created. But if you make money in a dodgy way or chase "easy" cash, you’re gonna end up regretting it somehow. I’ve never come across anyone with a solid work ethic you know, someone who busts their ass, gets a good paycheck, and helps tons of people who looks back and wishes they’d done it differently. On the flip side, it’s usually the folks who got their cash through sketchy means that seem to have some inner turmoil. Just look at drug dealers, OnlyFans creators, porn stars, gamblers who made bank without any real grind, and those billionaire bankers who schemed and financed wars to climb the ladder. It’s like the easy money these people scored comes with some built-in moral baggage. Honestly, I don’t envy a single billionaire connected to the Epstein list. Is it really worth it to sell your soul for a pile of stuff? Helping others while charging for your skills is the only way to truly enjoy both your life and your money. Trying to take the effort out of the equation messes with the Universe's laws. That’s my take.
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satoshi2020Senior Member
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#2Mar 13, 2024, 06:01 PM
People will say you not correct in this, they will believe that they should make all kind of money and if the bad money come they will enjoy it, if you are rich and you tell them this they will think as a rich man you don’t want them to get rich. The truth is that you will enjoy your money on how you made it, rich people who made bad money may get what money can buy but may not enjoy it or their lives like a man who made less money but good money and enough money.
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gang2009Full Member
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#3Mar 13, 2024, 10:23 PM
If it's regret for their actions, it's true that they sometimes harm many parties, but I see many cases of corruptors who never regret their actions and even feel no remorse after doing them. Some of the cases you mentioned are now occurring in many countries, but when it comes to whether they regret their activities, perhaps only a small number feel remorse and the rest act as if nothing happened. Who would be proud of having a lot of money if it's directly related to the cases on Epstein's list? Frankly, they are immoral and hardly exemplary. Money can sometimes blind a person's conscience because sometimes they cheat just to achieve group and individual desires. I believe that in the end what we are looking for is just comfort and a normal life with our families without the fear of being burdened by sins or mistakes in the past.
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gwei_minerSenior Member
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#4Mar 13, 2024, 11:16 PM
But the chaotic money or bad money is the power money, most of the people who have made this bad money ends up being the people in control of the economy or what the legit money makes do, this makes me wonder if bad money is power itself. However, I don’t know much about anyone regretting their wealth because they made it from Tempe bad way but from what we know karma for it will definitely lead them to rethinking their actions and maybe regret then, so legit money is the peace of mind money but if you know you can still handle the other part it’s wilder open than the legit side.
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wizard404Full Member
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#5Mar 14, 2024, 12:12 AM
That’s kinda real.. Basically, we see lots of ‘Unhappy rich people’ here and there saying “Money can’t buy happiness” and I think they actually thought Money is all they needed to live that happy life and that’s why they just find the money whether clean or dirty….they do later realize they were wrong though and that’s when the regrets will start coming.. What for? For wealth and materials you would d*e and leave on earth? I don’t think so..
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ryanbyteMember
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#6Mar 14, 2024, 03:05 AM
I doubt if money binds reality to the metaphysical, Money is the creation of man, it seen as exchange for value in the physical realm, metaphysical deals with the supernatural and mostly things done in the spiritual realm, metaphysical are basically things beyond our control because it is a different system out of the physical realm, we really don't know what's happening on the other side, so we cannot Marry the both realm together especially with money, as exchange for value over there might totally be different from what we have here.
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its_orbitMember
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#7Mar 14, 2024, 08:20 AM
This OP post deserves merit IMO, hopefully people who can will give you some. One thing I would add to your contrast between good and bad income is a famous old quote "Choose a job you love, and you will never work a day in your life." You don't always have to work hard, and I do agree helping others adds great karma to your earnings.
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its_cipherSenior Member
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#8Mar 14, 2024, 09:06 AM
If you're interested in this topic, there's a lot written about it in religious literature. The esoteric literature also talks about this. This is accompanied only by moral consequences in this world and not for everyone, but other consequences await in another world (worlds) after the transition (death). So those who are at least morally repentant now because of their actions (fraud, deception) will be in a better position there. By the way, I recently read a little-known book "Rose of the World" by Daniil Andreev, and even there it says the same thing. Although this book is very different from the well-known esotericism.
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maxgasSenior Member
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#9Mar 14, 2024, 11:55 AM
Do you know there are certain people that don't feel nor believe their money gotten from a bad and wrong process is actually not regrettable? Because they feel thats what life is they ought to enjoy the right and privilege that comes with it . But the other category of people believed that money gotten from struggles, pains and sweat is something that worth more cause there'll be no trace of regrets. But that notwithstanding i think there's no metaphysics of money,it's just meant to serve to all purposes provided you're open to accumulating it.
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0xShardMember
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#10Mar 15, 2024, 04:25 PM
I honestly don't know why it's like that, but I believe it too. I've seen so many examples of what you said in your post—it's overwhelming. When you are 15-25, you think, the world is so unjust, there's so many people doing evil thing and living happily ... But then you live more and you start noticing that none of them is actually living happily, to say the least. I'm not trying to say that all hard-working people always get what they deserve and prosper, but at least they have their moments, while scammers are never really happy.
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max_lynxSenior Member
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#11Mar 15, 2024, 05:13 PM
the thing is they have no moral compass. look at politicians who steal money from the people. they don’t feel any guilt about the poor people they steal from as long as they get to live lavishly.
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#12Mar 18, 2024, 01:31 AM
I think that what you say might be true for a small subset of those supposedly "bad" professions that you list, but it's all about ethics and judgement. Why are you putting onlyfans models into the same category as drug dealers? OnlyFans is a legal and legitimate means to earn money, just because you don't like it or think it is wrong does not make it so. In fact it often allows women to outperform men in earnings, which seems very fair considering their long history of being paid less and repressed because many religions said they should be quiet little mice. Traders equally take a fair bit of skill and are merely making profit by being better at analyzing data than other people, it's easy to poke fun at them when you don't actually understand that they are valuing businesses more accurately in order to make money. You are making some very wide judgements about legal jobs that does not hold true.
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paul.stakeHero Member
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#13Mar 18, 2024, 07:36 AM
I don't think people who acquired their money through unethical means haven't ever morally subconsciously judged themselves. Maybe they haven't consciously regretted it (because it is too tough to accept it after a long time), but something inside tells them they're doing the wrong thing. OnlyFans is a moral hazard for both sexes, as it submits man to lust and woman to commodification. OnlyFans and the porn industry have destroyed far more lives in the past decade than drugs ever did.
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sam.bullSenior Member
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#14Mar 18, 2024, 05:04 PM
One thing I'm aware of is the fact that there's a price for everything Whether for good deeds or bad ones Either you pay directly or indirectly. Money is like a universal currency of exchange backed by beliefs and trust. They chose the path for a reason but sometimes life isn't fair and may bring challenges that would make them think what if "Do it or do not do it. you will regret both." Søren Kierkegaard There's something some psychologist call Sudden Wealth Syndrome But the thing is desires differs Priority are not same.
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cipher404Full Member
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#15Mar 18, 2024, 06:34 PM
‎The true concept of money isn't the bill or note we see rather it's power is as a result  of the social agreement by man to use it as a mode of exchange. If a cycle of friends agrees today that 5 sea shells should be worth a piece of necklace, then from that moment the sea shells become money as it has been made a method of exchange. ‎You see the name "money" on its own is backed up by great power thus the way that it is earned can even affect the kind of peace and satisfaction that follows it. When money comes from legal or honest work or resources, it usually appears more meaningful and brings peace. In my point of view, a wealth that is accumulated in the right way, using legal resources and even from hard work always has more value than that of the money that at the end brings in regrets and stress.
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chain2009Full Member
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#16Mar 18, 2024, 10:15 PM
For genuine money to be met there should be exchange of value. You must give out something that is meaningful and is in scare need. That is the way that money made there is no easy way to go about it. Any easy means that tries to remove the place of exchange of value from the equation and offer quick money may be going against the laws that guides nature. I agree with this your statement. But there is something that, you should understand and that, is that in as much as hardwork is the basis of success and is needed in creating success, there is a limit to which hard work can take you to. The billionaires on the Epstein file are all smart workers but not hard workers. This is what the lager society should understand.
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oracle365Full Member
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#17Mar 19, 2024, 01:29 AM
I understand your perspective but Please what kind of trader are being referred to here? because if it is the regular crypto and Forex traders that we know, I do not think that is something easy, it is something that demands real effort. People study for years and are still unsuccessful in trading, that is how demanding it is.
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paul.stakeHero Member
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#18Mar 19, 2024, 07:09 AM
Maybe. Maybe you need to sell your soul to reach beyond some numbers. Maybe most of the people at the top just steal their way to riches. But, you will surprised by how much influence and money you can make by being an honest, hard working person with hope and ethics. Trading does not create value. Winning or losing a bet is not a net benefit for society. You didn't build anything that solves real world's problems. Most people think trading is difficult, because of "manipulation" or "competition", as if other jobs don't have any competition. Every trader finds some justification as to why he's losing except the fact that it's against the laws of the Universe. Everyone blames the "markets" or the "brokers", while nobody accepts the brute reality that God will simply not allow you to make money by providing no value to the world.
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rocket_matrixFull Member
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#19Mar 19, 2024, 09:20 AM
"The law of the universe is that wealth without work corrupts" the idea is philosophically appealing but there are many examples in history where sudden wealth has also given people the opportunity to do good. So perhaps the real question is more important than how the money came about but what people are doing with that money and what kind of difference it is making in the lives of others.
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gas_whaleMember
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#20Mar 21, 2024, 12:00 PM
It has long been studied that the human brain thinks according to Maslow's pyramid. And first of all, he tries to eliminate physical needs, that is, each person first thinks about food and a warm bed, and only then about social qualities. And only last of all about moral qualities. Therefore, often when a person was poor and then only got rich, he will easily part with this money, sending it to help the poor. After all, he will remember that he was the same. And I am completely disgusted by all these billionaires who have a lot of money, but at the same time do not want to share literally a few hundred dollars with those who really need it. This kind of philandering life of theirs doesn't make sense.
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