When actions speak louder than analysis

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wolf_viperFull Member
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#1Sep 25, 2022, 07:18 AM
So just a couple of weeks ago, a Whale spotted a chance when ETH dipped and scooped up over 100k ETH, staking them all at around $4.1k. Another Whale sold off his BTC to open a long position for ETH on an exchange. Then outta nowhere, more Whales started “dumping” to grab more ETH. Is there some clear reason why so much liquidity is flowing into ETH? I’m curious what you all think! While everyone else was stuck analyzing the market, these guys jumped right in. Now, if we look at it, ETH has hit a new all-time high since then and hasn’t gone back to that “bottom” after those moves.
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byte2013Senior Member
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#2Sep 25, 2022, 09:44 AM
That's the strategy of the most skilled and savvy people in the market. If they see good momentum building in ETH while Bitcoin is heading for a massive dump, they'll sell some of their Bitcoin and swap it for ETH. Many people in the crypto industry are already doing this. Some might even be recouping their losses through futures trading, taking a position in Ethereum that they're confident in to secure huge profits.
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sigma07Senior Member
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#3Sep 25, 2022, 02:32 PM
That's because with all of the pumps that we've recently have, ETH just made it. And so, these whales that have made actions know what they're doing and it could hit $5k before this bull run ends. If not, they're only taking a risk that they can afford. I think that guy who's sold his BTCs for ETH did it on hyperliquid. Well, good luck to him and maybe he's got already some profits from BTC already and so, trying to do more by doing that.
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paul2015Member
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#4Sep 25, 2022, 08:21 PM
that’s the difference between watching the game and playing it.. the whales didn’t wait for perfect charts or endless debates, they trusted their conviction and moved fast.. analysis has value but in moments like that, action speaks louder... eth’s rally shows that sometimes timing & courage matter more than perfect predictions
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just_k1ngMember
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#5Sep 27, 2022, 07:56 AM
There is no alternative to analysis in the crypto world. Jumping into an investment immediately after seeing a market movement without analysis is as risky as gambling. Sometimes, if you are lucky, immediate action without analysis can bring a good profit, but it will be much more risky. ETH and Bitcoin are very strong coins and their prices increase gradually, so it does not mean that their prices cannot fall. Sometimes, their prices can see very large downtrends. Futures trading is a very risky place, if you jump in panic here, you may have to face large losses very quickly.
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ryan_orbitFull Member
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#6Sep 28, 2022, 09:43 PM
This is the strategy used by many investors especially when the bearish run for Bitcoin is gradually approaching. It is a way for them to dump Bitcoin and invest massively in Ethereum which result in the start of the altcoin season. At that time, as Bitcoin is dumping signifying massive sell in the asset, whales that have profited from Bitcoin and those that haven’t earn enough from the investment will push to invest in altcoins to make quick profits. That is when the massive surge in altcoin will begin and we will see the altcoin season coming to reality.
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darklordSenior Member
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#7Sep 28, 2022, 11:36 PM
Taking the right action at the right time is crucial for generating a profit from trading and investing. This is part of what veteran traders do; some traders delay their action first to verify the decision they are about to make. These savvy traders have developed their insight so that they can foresee price movements. Trading is hard; you have to see these minor actions as part of bigger patterns and insights that only develop after years of trading, gained through both losses and winnings.
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greggweiFull Member
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#8Sep 29, 2022, 01:11 AM
It's a very risky move, but it can be worth it. I think that's what the Whale was thinking when he did that. The problem with many investors now is being afraid of the next thing that can happen, and I won't blame them because we all want our investments to be in a secure position. We are scared to buy and sell again, and this is normal considering all that happened in the cryptocurrency world. One minute it's pumping, then another it's dumping. Sometimes a little bit of a brave move could make one successful.
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#9Sep 29, 2022, 06:54 AM
I still think that BTC didn't yet hit it's ATH for this cycle. I see it going to 150k or even 180k before the bear market. Big whales however have other plans, after making good profit with BTC they decide to move to other assets like ETH in order to get even more profits, it is a good sign for the altcoin season, if it will come this cycle as well it will be big, maybe bigger than ever, we will see. The risk of converting BTC to other altcoins is that you may be forced out of BTC forever, in case it will only grow, leaded by different governments adoption that we are seeing. Time will show us what the right decision was.
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ryanwizardSenior Member
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#10Sep 29, 2022, 11:34 AM
Whenever you see a coin being concentrated on by the whales, it shows the tendency for rising, while these same whales have noticed for this and are interested to also support in helping this come more faster by investing more on it, but don't be surprised that the moment they all left the coin to another one, things are going to be more worse than before and those that were left unaware may be in serious loss with the expectation of the market pumping again soon.
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0xC0braFull Member
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#11Sep 29, 2022, 01:55 PM
It doesn't mean that everyone of the traders were that lucky to make profit, sometimes if you take just actions without properly analyzing the market before you took any position, such action can land you in a big lose as well. It is very good to make analysis and take action only when it is very necessary. Market can be your friend at times when you have a good eye to spot where the ride is going to start from and then you follow up as quickly as you can but if you can not follow the chase, you need to just invest in Bitcoin and hold for a long time.
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ColdHashFull Member
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#12Sep 29, 2022, 07:40 PM
That's a risky move mate, because why will I not make a proper analysis and just sell my bitcoin and put the funds into Etherum that has been struggling to reach her ATH that was achieved in 2021. This shows that it's pure gambling that those whales are into. Bitcoin has created several ATH before the current one. I believe some people are in the market confused and invest due to FOMO.
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bull_cobraFull Member
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#13Sep 30, 2022, 12:18 AM
I think it's a very bold move to bet on Ether in such a risky way, especially when there are whales capable of moving the market with a significant amount of investment. Ether is performing well, but it's by no means guaranteed given its overall market position, and it's normal for it to attract smaller traders. However, whales were expected to perform more wisely. I think others were not busy analysing the market but just wait for the right time to act. Also whales had surely made analysis before acting. The difference that whales take fast time to analysis then move fast to act considering the major risks if the market crashes for a reason or another.
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stack_laserFull Member
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#14Oct 2, 2022, 01:50 AM
You call them whales and what make them whales is the ability to follow current market shift and making a decision accordingly, whales are business minded and their actions drives in that regards where ever there is an opportunity, whales are ready to risks that Money on that, so we shouldn't be surprised to see inflow of more Bitcoin whales into Ethereum. Where the bull heads, there you see potential profits and anyone with the balls to risk, should go on with that and let see how the whole thing work out for both whales a d normal Ethereum investors.
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gw31_2021Full Member
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#15Oct 3, 2022, 09:54 PM
He won that's why you are saying all this, do you know that smart whales have also lost millions using this same strategy? Sometimes the market just go against you for no reason, news are powerful to change the fate of the current market situation, don't forget this.
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mike.chadSenior Member
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#16Oct 3, 2022, 10:13 PM
Of course it is possible that as soon as you sell off a particular coin to buy and trade or hodl the next coin ( in this case, btc for Ethereum like the story in op's post) then the price of the bought coin begins to drop. What we need to know is that this is a speculative market and it pendulum can swing to anywhere. However, if you have read and analysed well with market sentiment then there are chances it could go the way of the sentiment that lots of people have speculated it to go except it is manipulated. Volatility is the beauty of speculative market and that is way it is for the risk takers.
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nonce_sigmaFull Member
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#17Oct 4, 2022, 12:26 AM
They probably think Ethereum will outperform Bitcoin from this point, to the end of this bull run (if it’s not over already). It would make sense that at a push Ethereum could maybe hit $10,000 this year. Bitcoin most likely will hit $150,000 or something but it is not going to 2.5x. Whales are rich for a reason, I think these guys know what they’re doing.
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yield21Full Member
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#18Oct 4, 2022, 12:33 AM
It's no secret, this has been practice ever since I joined crypto in 2017. That's why we said that there are connections between ETH and BTC whales. However, in this bull run, it seems that they have decoupled already. But not that long though, as we have observed that in the last couple of months, it seems that they are back in the business. Probably it just shows the advantage of whales, big money in the market that they can play around and influence others too. So still there is this kind of manipulation and it's hard to deny it.
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leo42Full Member
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#19Oct 5, 2022, 10:34 PM
You cannot take a correct action without proper analysis, and analysis is useless without taking action after conducting it; these two go together, actions and analysis. Ethereum has proven again that it is the second-largest coin in the market. If you DCA Bitcoin as part of your investment plan, consider including Ethereum in your DCA plan as well. This won't be the last time Ethereum hits a new all-time high. They will continue to do so, so start planning to hoard Ethereum.
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calmfalconSenior Member
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#20Oct 6, 2022, 01:47 AM
It is true, you need to have them both at the same time, otherwise it is not going to work. I understand some people would prefer to have a better approach some other way, like analyse it so much that they think they have found the 100% correct one and meanwhile lose out on all many chances. So it's true that actions do mean a lot, you have to take those actions and hope that you are right, but until then you are not going to get much and you should be considering how to get a good result when given enough chance. In this case, if you are doing a good job then you should not be worried about it, and you can get a good return without much trouble about it, that's the important part. But, do not forget about getting some analysis too, just not overdo it.
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