When Status Beats Justice: The Value of Position

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roguefarmMember
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#1Jun 2, 2022, 01:09 PM
Your worth really hinges on your place in society. Honestly, it doesn’t matter how nice or respectful you are if you’re not in a solid spot. If you’re not standing on firm ground, you’re basically powerless. Yet, I’ve noticed plenty of shady folks climb the social ladder just because of their title or role. So here’s the big question: is it only the rich and powerful who can skate past their wrongdoings? Or shouldn't everyone face proper consequences for their bad actions?
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#2Jun 2, 2022, 04:31 PM
You ask a rhetorical question with an obvious answer, I'm not sure how much discussion you will get out of doing that. If course (almost) everyone wants to live in a fair and equal society, where the rich are subject to all the same rules as an average earner. There's generally going to be two situations however. First, your country has corruption which starts at the very top and being rich means if you pay the right people a certain amount the charges disappear. This should also include countries that accept things like "blood money". Secondly in some countries being rich means you can hire expensive lawyers who slow down or are specialists in navigating complex legal structures to maximize them for a client.
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roguefarmMember
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#3Jun 3, 2022, 08:18 PM
What you said makes sense, but I see it a bit differently. Reality doesn’t always match what we imagine in our minds. We may picture an ideal and fair society where the rich and the poor are treated equally under the law — but in truth, things are far more complex. Corruption, bias, and the influence of power will always exist in some form, yet that doesn’t mean it will last forever. Change comes slowly, through awareness and a strong belief in justice. So, no matter how beautiful our imagination is, the wise thing is to understand reality and work according to it.
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#4Jun 3, 2022, 10:46 PM
In practice, position > principle in many societies. Power gives voice, protection, and leverage, while honesty w/o footing often goes unheard. That’s why you see corrupt or immoral ppl rise—they understand the system, not the ethics. That said, it shouldn’t be this way. Justice is meant to be blind, but in reality it often peeks at status and wealth first. Money buys time, lawyers, influence—avg ppl rarely have that buffer. So yes, those w/ power often “get away w/ it,” at least short-term. But history shows power shifts. Reputation, records, and consequences tend to catch up eventually. Real change comes when institutions are strong and ppl stop worshipping position alone. Until then, footing sadly matters more than character.
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mike.chadSenior Member
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#5Jun 4, 2022, 02:18 AM
If your society is like that and only rewards people with money, it means you will get mediocres everywhere, no real life and no effort towards personal and national growth because everyone will be striving to make money from whatever means including illicit ways. That will definitely lead to backwardness in economic growth. While growing up, I heard good name is better than riches. Meaning there was reward and national recognition for hard work, so what is now happening in your country is overriding of what has been. In a sane system, the understanding of hard work pays (though smart hard work) is still operational and people still receive awards plus recognition in their different respective field and career and not just about wealth. The wealthy though try to influence systems of justice in different countries but societies that have built independent institutions have kept to rule of law that even the wealthy get punished for their wrongful doing.
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alexwalletSenior Member
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#6Jun 5, 2022, 05:11 PM
Not everyone considers themselves valuable simply because of their position or wealth. People who hold onto principles will not become suckers for immoral people. Accumulated powerlessness becomes a tremendous force when power turns into greed for exploitation and oppression. "It only takes a small spark to set an entire forest ablaze." This is a lesson learned from the Nepal riots a few months ago.
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maxgasSenior Member
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#7Jun 5, 2022, 07:48 PM
You're trying to make a good point though but I still don't get where you're heading to, value is priceless and at such one needs to see themselves that way. Your value doesn't defines your position in life and the society at large but the manner at which you stretch hands to  people beneath you explains a lot. But in our society today the main reasons are behind flawed due to corruptions and selfish gains and it proves position defines how worthy and d valued you are whereas it's not.
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jake.chainSenior Member
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#8Jun 6, 2022, 01:09 AM
Your question is, should there be proper justice? The answer is of course there should be equal treatment otherwise it’s not really justice anymore. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/justice Yes, there should be justice but the truth is it’s not always upheld. Injustice will always exist in our world.
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