Which is better: loans for startups or finding investors?

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eric23Senior Member
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#1Sep 15, 2023, 06:00 AM
One big issue that a regular person with a great business idea faces is raising that initial cash to get things rolling. To tackle this problem, you usually have two main choices: either take out a loan from a bank or look for investors who want a piece of your company in exchange for financial support. When you consider these options, loans might seem easier to obtain, but they often come with tons of strict rules and high interest rates. In my area, it can be really tough to see loans as a viable option. On the other hand, many investors are just looking to double their money and don’t really care much about the entrepreneur, which creates another problem. The percentage of your business they want can seem pretty outrageous, especially when they realize your idea has a solid chance of succeeding. I get that these funding sources can help a startup grow super fast, and having an investor can also bring in valuable advice and connections that might boost your business. But I’m really curious about this: If you’ve got a solid business idea but lack the capital to make it happen, is taking a loan the way to go or should you focus on finding interested investors?
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#2Sep 15, 2023, 09:57 AM
Personally I prefer finding an investor. Well yes profit won't be as big as expected but at least it would be a safer option. Taking a loan would be a good thing if you really see huge potential to what you are trying to cook because it would be a gamble if you're pushing the risks up. If your investment won't generate enough to pay the interest then basically you are putting yourself in huge debt. This is why I believe finding an investor would at least balance risk and profit ratio, at least temporarily. Just depends on where you would be using the money actually. There are odds with taking a loan and same goes with finding an investor. For example, you are aiming for a franchise. If that franchise has enough popularity and organic customer or client, then it would be fine taking a loan to start things up. But if it literally a start up, then you might consider the other option 'coz it will help you in all aspects; growing the business, and help with finances, bills, and capital.
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tom.cobraFull Member
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#3Sep 15, 2023, 03:16 PM
I would prefer to take the second option, find an investor who will finance your business idea and both of you will be business partners. This is actually a win-win situation because you are not going to lose any but only your time and efforts to your business, and as long as you are confident that your business idea will work and grow in the process, then the rate of success is higher. However, if you want to solely run your business and suicide on taking a loan, I think that’s putting yourself and your business at a high risk. You will face bigger pressures instead, on making sure that your business will work so you can pay your loan, and on securing a back up plan where you will get your payment in case your business will fail which I believe has really high chances especially if the competition is stiff and you have not build yet a strong foundation of your business.
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mr_satoshiSenior Member
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#4Sep 17, 2023, 07:11 PM
To get a loan, you need to have some kind of collateral that has some value for you to get a proper loan, and not every individual intending to start a business has that. But If it an investor, they can invest in you if they see your business plan as viable even without you having anything to give them yet. An investor who you promise business returns periodically is a better choice than a bank loan. On the other side of things if you intend to have a business where you are the sole owner who makes all the decisions without interference, a bank loan will be a better option because someone invests in your business means they have bought a share of your stock and to an extent they have an opinion in a decision making of your business. You will be lucky if you can get an investor who is not interested in poke nosing into the business, someone who is only interested in the profit you have promised them.
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leo.wolfHero Member
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#5Sep 17, 2023, 08:50 PM
The option to take actual depends on the conditions given to you, firstly of all taking loan is the most risky thing to do most especially for a business that is just kick starting. The risk of the business collapsing and you haven to pay back the loan is the most worrisome factor in taking loan. The reason why you even see lots of people going to take loan is because they don’t have anybody that wants to invest in them, so having this option is already a step ahead for them. Investors most at times comes with less risk and gives you more time than the loans. My pick is seeking an investor but that depends on the conditions they take, most investors do not take liable of the risk in the business, they take far too much profits of the business and mostly leave the business runner with bearly nothing. So if the conditions too seems far too stretched then I would also abolish this and maybe seek out governments grants which are far better although very hard to get
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cipher_pixelSenior Member
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#6Sep 18, 2023, 04:40 AM
Investors don't really help out for a business to start, they are only interested in the expansion of the existing business model cause the chances of failing a new business startup is high compared to a start-up that exists already for a year. Bank loan is the only choice now which is even more difficult if you don't have a good credit profile, collateral, and hundreds of documents. There is another option which is partnership, if you have small capital like 1/10th of what you need then you can try to unite a group of 10 such people.
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max_atlasSenior Member
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#7Sep 18, 2023, 07:06 AM
Personally I would rather take a loan from a respected institution. All they will care about is whether I can pay back the loan or not and once it is all paid, they can finally leave me alone. It is much harder to make transaction with an actual person, in my opinion. They might also want to be involved in all decisions in the business which I would hate if it was all my idea in the first place.
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mike.chadSenior Member
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#8Sep 18, 2023, 08:13 AM
Well I don't believe that getting a loan is good for a new business rather it can be perfect for an already existing business because it already has market and customers from where the funds for both to service or repay the loan will be generated from. For a new business that has no coverage, patronage or customers, it will be difficult to grow with loan. Loan is suppose to be for already tasted business. However, some people try or risk it and survive but very few. So it is better to look for support and investors to build the new business because it will have no interest attached to the funds. Both are good but to have a partner has to be with a special arrangements and agreement, best to be written down in black and white and the owner should have the larger part of capital which will give controlling right because the owner is the one that has the original dream of the business. If it is a business that can be started by personal savings then it is better to gradually build it.
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im_bullSenior Member
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#9Sep 18, 2023, 12:00 PM
My choice will depend on the conditions of the loan from the bank or the partner. Islamic Banks offer loans without interest which makes them attractive to business owners. Other bank's interest is so high that one might fall into debt if the business doesn't start making profits as projected.  Another problem of banks is that they also demand collateral, which some business owners don't have. One has to take all these into consideration before asking for loans. Partnering with a sponsor will be a good idea, but it will also depend on the terms of the contract. If these partners are not greedy, it will be better to sign a deal with them instead of allowing the idea to die or become outdated. You just have to seek good legal advice to enable you to have an agreement that will favour you now and in the future. Choosing any of these options has its consequences. Taking a loan from banks will make you bear the risk and gain alone. The partnership will make you share the gains and losses with your partner. So you have to consider which one that will be convenient. For me, I would prefer a partnership since I do not want to take business risks alone.
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#10Sep 18, 2023, 02:41 PM
Many ideas not good enough to scale or even realistic. Seed Money is good but every idea needs a plan in order to get it. The person with the idea also has to in control of him/herself. No good to spend investment in cars and luxury and let developers do the rest for coffee and a bag of apples. If you take a loan for the idea you signal to investors that you belief in your idea. That's a big plus.
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k3vin4peSenior Member
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#11Sep 18, 2023, 08:21 PM
Currently, I have a business idea that requires about $50k, but I can't get a loan of such an amount from the bank because I will be required to provide sufficient collateral, which I have nothing much to offer unless I put my dad's house and my mom's business in line, and that's something I don't want to do. Although I have my own business, it's small, and I want a big company, which is what requires me to raise up to $50,000. If I can get serious investors and they agree with my terms for the percentage they will receive for some number of years, I will go with that option. If I can also get a low-interest loan from relative effort combined, that will also be cool.  I can use a loan or investor money to start my business plan, depending on what is readily available and what makes me more comfortable. There are some loans you will take, and you will put yourself in some kind of mental trouble, especially if the business is not profitable as planned.
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just_h4wkFull Member
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#12Sep 18, 2023, 10:11 PM
Using a loan money to start up a company is like a 50/50 deal and it's a bit risky also. One of the reasons I don't like using loan money for business service is because from the start of every new company, customers aren't coming in as excepted because you are just starting, and it takes months for people to know the company and also know the kind of service they renders. And loan money always comes with interest and if you want to do business with the loan money the interest will double up because everyone who's rendering loan to others believes that people who comes for loan fi start up company/businesses want to use their money to start up life, so most of them gives the loan with a risky condition and big interest so that if you as the loan collector starts the business you will take more time for you to pay back the loans and in every month interest increases. So for me I thinks that the best way is getting the am investors who can invest well on your company and you also make sure to do an agreement with them for a specific year.
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bit2017Senior Member
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#13Sep 18, 2023, 10:36 PM
What I do when I want to develop a business is to consider it over a long period of time. However even after a long period of time, I am still trying to develop this business personally, meaning that before making a decision to borrow or get funds from investors, the guaranteed thing is to find the weaknesses of this business and fix them completely in order to minimize losses. For example: I have a local craft business that is only able to meet demand in the nearest area, so I was given 3 months to work on it completely, evaluating any gaps, quality of goods, abundant supply of raw materials, everything must be checked carefully. The aim is that in the future, if production is expanded, all the materials needed will not experience problems such as a shortage of raw materials amidst high demand. This will create a stock of goods that is ready to be distributed on an ongoing basis with market demand that is truly able to meet it. As for the involvement of third parties, for me there is no problem, whether you want to borrow or receive funds from investors, as long as you are able to carry out this according to a structured plan, there will be no obstacles in sharing profits.
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hypergasFull Member
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#14Sep 21, 2023, 01:41 AM
You just said it's difficult to get a loan and even investors to power up a business. Both are hard to get with the kind of economy today. If you get investors, those guys are going to knock on your door now and then to ask whether you are doing your job because they are eager to profit. While if you also have a loan, it could be a heavy burden for you. Little by little must be the way. And when you see the business is already working that's the time you may seek investors.
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miner_bullFull Member
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#15Sep 21, 2023, 02:30 AM
if at the start, it's better to get investment directly compared to a loan, that's because if you get investors then the money they invest can become capital and you won't have the responsibility to pay that capital, you just need to develop your company and provide results. according to what you promised. while on a loan, you need to pay it on time and there is a greater responsibility that you need to pay when you get a loan, not to mention you need to pay interest which is a burden. because of this, it is better for me to be able to get investors in the early days of building a company, rather than a loan. but that doesn't mean a loan isn't needed, it's just that it's needed when your company is already getting stable income and you want to intend to grow the company bigger with your own resources.
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CalmNovaFull Member
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#16Sep 23, 2023, 07:04 AM
If you think taking a loan from banks is hard since the borrower need to agree with so many strict terms, but I'm 100% believe looking for investors that want to invest in your start-up is way way way more harder than taking a loan from banks. Let's say you're an investor, there will be a lot people reach you and ask you to fund them, but how you can be so sure if those people who run the start up aren't scammers? how you can be sure you will earn profit like their promise? you might not want to invest in someone project because you think it's better to invest in Bitcoin or your own business.
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#17Sep 23, 2023, 07:57 AM
The issue with having an investor is that they will definitely try and meddle with your business decisions, that's why you don't see a lot of small entrepreneurs trying to get in with the investor way of growing their business because that's one of the causes and if the investors try to pull out their share, they might cause damage to your business. I guess it's a matter of which business are you, a big business or a small one because one can benefit a business if they're properly in the right place. If you've got a good business and you know that a growth is what you'll need, I think that you'd benefit a lot with loans because that's basically making sure that you're doubling your profits as quick as possible.
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ryanwizardSenior Member
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#18Sep 24, 2023, 07:45 PM
I will not advise for someone starting up a new business to take a loan for it, that is a bad way of starting, instead they can learn to earn and have or build up a start up capital for themself than borrowing, but the option of getting an investor is also not a bad idea in this regards, but when we have gotten one, we must be able to ensure that the terms and conditions involved are what we can comply with, lastly, we must not disappoint our investors by having a failure in what we do, so its a must that the business must be productive.
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omega_2013Full Member
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#19Sep 25, 2023, 03:09 PM
Both options you offer have pros and cons. To be able to attract investors and receive their investment, you first need to have a unique business idea and I think this is much more difficult than getting a loan to start a business. But in return, if you successfully raise capital, you will minimize risks because you only spend effort and time, and almost no money is lost. Meanwhile, borrowing capital will become easier than raising capital because you can be more proactive without depending on others. But borrowing capital requires collateral and will have higher risks if your business idea is not as successful as expected. Honestly, if it were me, I wouldn't rush to think about this, what I'm more concerned about is whether my business idea is truly unique to make a difference or not because creating a unique idea is not an easy thing that a normal person can do.
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raven_maxiSenior Member
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#20Sep 27, 2023, 03:04 AM
I say both are pretty much the same, but having a really strong angel investor behind your business/enterprise is going to do you a lot more favors than getting that loan check from the bank. Why? A couple of reasons really. 1. Added confidence among stakeholders and customers: Having a good angel investor with an established name in the industry you're in is going to put a lot of confidence to your business and product, people will think you know your shit because if this guy's in your back, you're technically as good as they come and you have a lot of potential/authenticity in your name. 2. Connections. One of the biggest things you would really need in business, no matter what type of industry you're in is getting connections to the biggest people in your field. Having a trusted angel investor not only entails money and support, but also putting your name up with their friends/connections who could expand your breadth and make your business/enterprise bigger than it is. After all, they most likely have a stake at your business, and would want to see it flourish and evolve cause that's their money on the line. 3. Lighter interest rates and terms. Businesses can be very flimsy sometimes, and this is where banks could fuck you over. Your business is down and you still owe them money? Not their problem, you still have to pay them the capital plus the interests rates. With angel investors however, you can try to negotiate the terms and see if you could have a more flexible type of plan with them, most of these investors would say no and will be on a take it or leave it situation, but that's way better than an upfront "no" from the bank per se. So yeah, these are just a few reasons why I would always go for an angel investor rather than a bank. Maybe you guys have something to pitch or disagree with me on, just reply and perhaps further expand my knowledge considering I'm not really a business type guy.
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