Why do investors see Bitcoin differently?

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maxbridgeFull Member
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#1Aug 1, 2021, 09:44 PM
I've been noticing a bunch of conversations lately, both in person and online, where folks are stressing about who's feeling bullish and who's feeling bearish in the market. It’s kinda wild how some investors claim they're bearish while others are all about being bullish, even within the same market conditions. From what I get, Bitcoin doesn’t actually go through two separate phases (bull and bear) simultaneously that could leave investors feeling different effects. I mean, aside from the usual volatility bouncing around, the market's performance is visible to everyone, right? A bear market shows the same key stats for everyone, and so does a bull market. The main difference lies in how investors perceive the volatility and the unpredictable nature of speculation. Some prefer to wait for a bear market to scoop up cheap coins and hold on, while others jump in during a bull run, often swayed by short-term excitement. These different mindsets really throw things off, making it hard for investors to agree on the short or long-term outlook. So, is it really possible for some investors to feel bullish while others are bearish in the same Bitcoin market situation?
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diamond365Full Member
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#2Aug 3, 2021, 09:14 PM
There is only one Bitcoin market and in one market, there is only bullish phase or bearish phase. It's only people as participants in the market don't realize which phase they are in and sometimes they refuse that the market is bearish or already breaking out from bear bottom to start a new bull run. They need a lot of time, like months to realize that the market is bullish or bearish, but it's challenge and matter of market participants. Their success or failure can be decided by that but the market is only itself, and it does not deny its own bearish or bullish phase. Trading is very difficult and risky so if people feel like they don't know which phase the market is, what they should do, just don't trade and simply hold their bitcoin, withdraw it to non custodial wallet, and wait for bull market to take profit.
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alex.shardLegendary
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#3Aug 4, 2021, 07:30 PM
Yes. There is something many people on this forum have noticed about analysts and traders, that as some of them will be saying the market will be bullish, some will be saying the market will be bearish. That is just how people are and it is a normal thing. It is you that should just make your own analyses. But during bull time, there will be a time most people will say the market will continue to be bullish and that will drive the price higher.
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bear2021Full Member
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#4Aug 4, 2021, 11:28 PM
It is very possible because different people don’t have the same level of understanding on a particular matter. You might see an indicator that suggests that the market will be bullish, then another person that doesn’t have same level of comprehension as you will see it as bearish indicator. The market gives everyone the ability to see and interpret things whichever way they want, but in the end the market will decide who was right or wrong, then every market participant will know their stand. Secondly the market won’t be interesting if everyone is right or wrong at the same time.
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maxbridgeFull Member
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#5Aug 5, 2021, 03:57 AM
I don't the area you are on which is why I also admitted that the market is psychological but that is not my area of concern as the post implies. I am considering the psychological views where the value of Bitcoin is the same in the same timeframe and you hears individuals expressing how bearish the market is for them and the others saying they are bullish at same spot. This is totally not an insight of analysis but what they actually feels about their portfolios. Of course analysing the future performance of Bitcoin is what is notable that every analysts has the mandate to source their analytical datas in predicting Bitcoin price and we have also seen a lot of them in the forum getting it wrong.
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wildomegaFull Member
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#6Aug 5, 2021, 08:17 AM
Why impossible? The concept of demand and supply and the needs and wants of humans is never ending, we will surely came up with these kind of views. It's in the basic economic concepts to be honest and there's always another perspective of other individuals. There are millions now who are involved in crypto and there's no way you won't find both perspective from investors. I wouldn't call them investors but rather "traders" as it's more applicable to them regarding this discussion. If you're an investor especially just recently you wouldn't surely make yourself bearish the moment you saw that spike downwards. I think investors having different perspective with the same market horizon has something to do with on when did they invest on it and how much was the profit or loss they accrued.
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token2015Full Member
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#7Aug 5, 2021, 08:46 AM
Usually, investors' differing views on the same phase of Bitcoin's development are linked to whether the market is rising or falling. Investors generally seek stability and profits, but now there's news that “Google has found a way to ‘hack’ the blockchain using a quantum computer.” I think that's why their views differ.
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#8Aug 5, 2021, 10:15 AM
Yes, you actually have a good point on what you stated above regarding the view of an investor with respect to how long he or she might have invested in Bitcoin. Because if a person who invested in Bitcoin long term when it's price value was still around $50,000 per BTC now sees people who invested few months ago when it's value was $100,000 per BTC now complaining of being Bearish at the current price of $77,000 and he claims to be Bullish, he may not be wrong, but yet that doesn't stop the Bitcoin general market from being bearish (i.e if the price fell from $100k to $77k per BTC).. But in a nutshell, a bull period still remains a bull period irrespective of how long or short a person might have invested in Bitcoin.
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dan.whaleFull Member
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#9Aug 5, 2021, 11:57 AM
Two, three four people can't see same thing on the market. They only have to agree with what they understand and invest when they feel the market is giving them an opportunity to. In every market scenerio, there is both the bulls and the bears. It's not designed to move in a single phase. During a bull market there has to be a few bears to balance price and create more opportunities before it regains momentum. Same thing goes for bear markets. This makes it possible for different people to have varying insight about the market. The goal is to make profits.
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gmfrensFull Member
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#10Aug 5, 2021, 03:39 PM
The key indicators to this is either that an investor bought bitcoin at a time the price was actually on the high side making it very other position of bitcoin look bearish or that he's not an enthusiast and so, he tends to see bitcoin price from the negative standpoint being that he does not believe that bitcoin can get really bullish again. If you're an enthusiast, regardless of the position of the market, it's hard for you to be bearish because as long as your asset is in bitcoin, you're always going to remain positive that though the market is down it will still bullish.
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leo.wolfHero Member
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#11Aug 5, 2021, 08:35 PM
The real thing is that even with this indicators everyone is still making predictions that’s why we will hardly have a uniform conditions, both might be seeing that the market is bullish through the use of an indicator but one of the other might be considering other factors like the fundamentals which they feel that the market will react to. One thing is that there is something called sentimental analysis while predicting and it’s an area where everyone are using seeing the market in different directions. In periods like this which the market is consolidating predictions are even highly likely to be different than in a full blow bearish and bullish cycle
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maxbridgeFull Member
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#12Aug 6, 2021, 07:11 AM
Analytical Speculations can not be doubted to be the events that keeps the Bitcoin market interesting with the insights of how every individuals oversees the market and how they psychologically think the uncertainty of the market may result at the real-time. Personal sense of reasoning since it is also have Decentralized market defines it why the market will remain unpredictable while there had been no proven force that regulates the price at a particular given time while enthusiasts at their differences make the market lively ahead of the time.
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LoneRocketSenior Member
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#13Aug 6, 2021, 10:56 AM
This is very possible, and I think it is also normal because it varies according to the nature of the investors and their horizon of vision for the present and the future. Whoever has foresight will be optimistic, unlike someone who has a limited view. Speculators and those with weak hands are often pessimistic when the market falls and sell at a loss, while on the other hand, at the exact same time, those with a forward-looking perspective who look to the future and do not care about the present moment are optimistic and buy the same Bitcoin that these people sold.
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atlas2014Full Member
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#14Aug 6, 2021, 11:28 AM
Every investor knowledge, thinking, perspective, market analysis or risk-taking ability will never be the same, from there one investor will not be the same as another investor. This is normal, the period of holding Bitcoin may be the same but the investor goal will never be the same because two people are different. We all see Bitcoin from our own perspective and this perspective will never be completely the same as another. For example, assume we are two people who will hold Bitcoin for two years. Here the long-term plan of holding Bitcoin is the same for both people, but when I am confident in buy Bitcoin, the investor on the other side may not buy Bitcoin and may wait for a better time. So our long-term plan may be the same but the investment strategy will be different.
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CalmYieldSenior Member
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#15Aug 6, 2021, 04:16 PM
Yes it is.  The first thing to consider is that most of the people giving out their ideas about what is going on in the markets are people who have no idea what they are talking about but want to sound and seem like they do.  So there will be some people who are delusional and others who are realistic. But Bitcoin being bearish can be 'bullish' too.  To me, the fact that we are looking at a significant drop from last time is a bullish sign for Bitcoin because it looks like it is going for the same cycle pattern as before.  Which does not tell me that it is hurt severely.  It is telling me instead that it is doing as good as ever before.
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shard_minerSenior Member
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#16Aug 7, 2021, 09:12 PM
For some of us who have been on the Bitcoin network for a long time now, unless we are into trading full-time, then the best thing we do is to observe the trend pattern and draw out a plan to follow either with a consistent DCA strategy or with a lump sum strategy that is meant to be effected whenever there is a perceived bear season. I do think for a truth that opinions differ mostly when it concerns bitcoin movement and seasons, because while I may see a bull season and still opt to, as an opportunity to hold and accumulate with a large lump sum or increase my DCA commitment, someone else might see it as a good time to sell of their holdings so as to avoid liquidity or loss of asset. Everyone can't agree on the direction Bitcoin is going and that's what makes it a valuable risk of which such difference in opinion is a volatility on its own to affect its price at the moment.
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leo.wolfHero Member
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#17Aug 8, 2021, 12:02 AM
I don’t think is the kind of difference in opinion that OP is about, if you look at your example both of you are confident of the market been bullish and the difference is the strength of the bullishness. You have the belief that the market will go so high up that buying at every opportunity will still end up in profit while the other person doesn’t believe in such a higher price and as such either waits to take profit or wait for more dip. What OP is trying to prove is that in same market where someone is trying to buy bitcoin another person is actually selling because he sees a great bearish sentiment, and yes this is possible because of opinion since there are no definite conditions guides the market strictly rather they are all dynamic.
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paul_omegaFull Member
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#18Aug 8, 2021, 03:37 AM
Should you happen to have bought at the dip, then this could be possible. Of course Bitcoin does has its season which is generally acceptable by all Bitcoin investors but, on an individual base, should you find yourself in good profit with the market price well above your entry for a buy, that’s as well a bullish movement for you. Yeah, it’s not on a general ground but, you’re in profit and that’s what matters. This might be an unpopular opinion but, I see it to be very possible on an individual base.
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bit_2016Senior Member
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#19Aug 8, 2021, 07:45 AM
Yes, it's very possible. Our minds are dynamic and that's why it changes from time to time. We can also be on the same boat of being bullish and bearish. How? by thinking that this year is bearish and yet the current scenario shows that we're bullish. And there's no punishment to jump on the same both of that while being invested. It's only about opinions that you can say or choose not to say publicly.
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ColdViperSenior Member
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#20Aug 8, 2021, 01:26 PM
This type of Bull and Bear concept and its impact will only affect those who have come to trade the market or have bought BTC Bitcoin for a short period of time to make a profit, or those who have bought Bitcoin but have not yet gained much knowledge about it. If you really consider Bitcoin, there is nothing to see it as bull or bear. It is an independent economic force and a (store of value) asset. It may also be that those who have large amounts of Bitcoin and are involved in professional trading, influence the market and encourage bull trends when selling and try to create bear trends when buying BTC is needed.
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