Location is key, like really key. Sure, you might have cash to spend, but if supply chains are messed up and planes aren’t flying, places like Dubai will run out of essentials pretty quickly. Another thing to consider is the air quality there, it’s not the freshest.
During serious crises, you definitely don’t want to be in a spot that could get cut off. Money won’t save you if you can buy a ton of bread but there’s no bread to buy. That’s just how it is.
Take a look at the map; Dubai is one of the most isolated spots. We’re heading towards a time where even having loads of cash won’t do anything. People with millions in their accounts could still be left hungry. That’s the harsh truth.
Why location matters when supply chains collapse
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I really doubt Iran's surface to air missiles and launch sites can last into months. There's very likely decent stockpiles plus the ability to send things in on land. Sure it's a desert but there'll be well worn roads around it and a way in/through.
This is very similar to how even the strictest borders have gangs that have a decent success rate of getting people through them for the right price (often within the 6000/person mark). With that in mind, at some point if this becomes an established neutral zone within war, the cost of getting goods in becomes the bet a pilot wants to take to survive. That's probably only a few million. There are many planes that can reach 80000 feet in altitude and drop supplies that are typically unreachable by missiles. They don't need to land if they're parachuting aid.
If you can't get water from the sky you can typically get it by digging deep into groundwater. Deserts have less groundwater, but they usually don't have none at all.
It's interesting Dubai and the surrounding areas are getting all this focus when Cuba seems to be going through issues of their own that aren't as touted about because a lot of them seem to be without electricity and fuel which will drastically reduce their own food security and already has done far more than a couple of millionaires that could relocate anywhere.
Going through what you wrote I can't really get what your saying but from the topic I think you're talking about location as an important supply chain which is down if I can get you correctly, at first when things are a bit though and the system is unstable where you keep or position yourself matters most more than the money you even have and again having access to basic services, goods and logistics will determine how you will end up or who survive or manage well during economic problems.
Sometimes it's not about you planning well or having a good strategy about the price and profit you will get rather it's about the environment you are in and also the infrastructure stability do play a bigger role when it comes to choosing a location
Nobody can predict the direction that this will take, but Iran is looking extremely weakened right now. Lashing out at their neighbors who generally left them alone, even if they did host overseas military bases, is going to leave them struggling for any support in future. The top of the Iranian government has been severed right now and anyone left will be hiding as much as possible. Trump doesn't have any interest in a ground war, but there may be state sponsored attacks in retribution, so there will be some turmoil for a while. I certainly wouldn't want to be an Iranian soldier right now, tasked with defending against or launching attacks on the US/Israel, because they tend to get knocked out pretty quick. All round it appears the response will be fairly muted beyond what has happened so far.
jake.chainSenior Member
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#5Jan 13, 2025, 04:59 PM
But if youre rich, itll be easy to you to just leave the country. That is a privilege in on itself. When you are powerful, influential and wealthy you can bend the rules and ensure yours and your moneys safety. Unlike those in poverty, theyll just have to accept that the fate of their country is tied to the fate of their lives.
yield_ninjaFull Member
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#6Jan 13, 2025, 06:49 PM
If I get you clearly I believe you're talking about the crisis that has been rocking Iran and some other neighboring countries like Dubai. In a war situation money becomes a secondary need, why survivor becomes the primary need. So survival will be their first point of call, if they can use their money and buy their way of of that location then fine and good. at this point, those of them that are in Dubai or to just went for vacation came at the wrong time, the location for me is good but the timing is wrong.
This is the tragedy of war, the helpless and the poor ones are the ones who are going to suffer the most, the rich and the politicians have properties and money stashed abroad, so in case of war, they can just evacuate, while the poor sectors can only go to the shelter and on the mercy of the warring countries.
All wars are ugly. The victims are the innocent, while the perpetrators can just leave the country and go to their allies.
The consequences of wars cannot be predicted because enemies could devise any means including economic blockages as a weapon of war. Dubai's isolation might not be a big problem during war. From the map the country is located along the coast of the Persian Gulf which gives it access to the sea. Landlocked nations can be easily cut off from supply, it would take extra efforts to block supplies from the sea.
Large scale war like the current US/Israel and Iran can escalate to the extent that the food supply of many countries will be affected. I think of these Gulf nations would have stocked food in case the war gets out of hand.
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#9Jan 16, 2025, 04:37 AM
Even in the toughest war zones, people often find ways to move across borders if they can pay the right price, much like gangs smuggling people through strict checkpoints. If a neutral zone were set up, pilots might risk flying supplies in, dropping them by parachute from high altitudes where missiles cant easily reach. Water can come from the sky or from digging into the ground, since even deserts usually hide some groundwater. At the same time, its worth noticing that while places like Dubai get attention for their wealth and survival strategies, countries such as Cuba face quieter but serious strugglespower cuts, fuel shortages, and food insecurity that affect ordinary people far more than the movements of a few millionaires. In fact, these hidden crises show how survival depends not only on money or technology but also on community resilience and creative solutions.
dude fullbear2222 your post is all over the place but i get it youre saying dubai sucks in a war cause its isolated and money wont save you
news flash rich folks always find a way out they charter jets or buy their way across borders while the rest of us hodl and pray
but yeah if supply chains rekt no amount of fiat or btc gonna get you bread if theres none around
look at venezuela or whatever money becomes toilet paper location matters but so does having skills to survive not just stacks in the bank
@furball808 spot on being rich means you can bail poor suckers stuck
as for iran thing its fud mostly us aint invading full on just posturing
still if youre in dubai maybe hodl some water and cans instead of lambos lol
cynical me says we all screwed if it goes nuclear but hey thats life in 2020s
keep stacking sats tho cause post apocalypse btc might be the new gold if internet survives
If you are referring to supply chain in respect of the ongoing war in the middle east, then you have a good point considering where Dubai is located. But I'm sure they will find a way around and one of the ways is like retaur commented, they can get supply through play that fly at high altitude that are not reachable by missiles. Besides, I don't see Iran capable of causing major disruption of global supply chain because a lot of their stockpiles are being taken out by B-2 bombers and in matter of weeks they might run out of missile unless China and Russia will summon the courage to join the war.
its_cipherSenior Member
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#12Jan 20, 2025, 08:25 PM
Well, what is happening was predicted many years ago by Zhirinovsky (he was a politician in Russia). Dubai is such a "second Singapore" - a financial center, the main capital of which is security. Hence, the demand for real estate. Now security is over (regardless of the outcome of the war). And it looks like forever. Dubai will never be the same again. It's just that most people haven't realized this yet, on the contrary, they can buy when prices fall.
I agree that Dubai is vulnerable like all global city in the world but money will loose its importance only when there are total destruction such as nuclear war. If the damage is still scalable, its not always end with starve of rich people. Every part will still running although limited and every part of society will adjust and applied survival mode with reset on distribution system and logistic priority will be change. I see Dubai is strong enough with its sea, air access, political stability, financial capacity and also its international alliance.
As far as i know, Dubai is a trading and financial hub, gold and commodity hub, global real estate hub and a safe haven capital. From information we get, Dubai is closely tied to the assets and interests of the top 3% of the population on the top of pyramid, with their access and money they will ensure this region will not destroyed. In case of war, thre will be possibility of logistic disruption, slower economic activity, price rise up but total collapse far to happen in Dubai. Stability mean wealth sustainability for this population, as main actor they will keep stability to keep their wealth. do not forget world always learn from history, when face national threat they will do supply chain diversification, nearshoring, strategic stockpiling and logistics line redundancy.
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I read a report that said CR7 travelled out of saudi to Madrid admist the missle dump, ideally if you have money that is first thing you should be doing right now, figuring out how to leave with your family and go someowhere hopefully the war doesnt reach because as it stand now, the war has reached or invlvoed over 10 countries, soemthing that started with just two 'Israel and Iran". Liike you said in times of war, money is irrelevant because at that point money just ends up being paper and no government to recognize the paper as money anymore, it is just so unfortunate
jake.chainSenior Member
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#16Jan 21, 2025, 09:26 AM
Those who started this war sit comfortably in their homes. Its really the normal people who suffer. All this suffering to satisfy the pride and greed of powerful people we call leaders.
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