The reality of high living expenses, let's be real

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s33d_moonFull Member
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#1Mar 13, 2017, 02:14 PM
Honestly, the world's split between the wealthy families that hold most of the land and properties. You might have a decent job in the UK, Canada, the USA, or even in the EU, but renting is just out of reach. Your options are pretty grim, like staying "homeless on the streets," but hey, you can do it with some flair get a van and turn it into a cozy mobile home, or just live in a good tent. And don’t forget to shower at a spa or gym! It’s tough out there, and it’s not your fault the world is so challenging, but you gotta figure it out. It's not wise to blow your last cash on crazy rent! In London, even a single room costs around £1000, which is insane. Better to buy a solid tent and just live in that. Plus, having a dog can add a layer of safety and protection. There are also plenty of older or abandoned houses you can find to live in. The issue won't get fixed until everyone chips in to help each other out instead of just focusing on their own egos. If you’re struggling financially, there’s no shame in it just be realistic. And it's hard to ignore how money laundering has been pushing property prices up, so this isn’t surprising at all.
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im_altSenior Member
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#2Mar 13, 2017, 08:05 PM
Why do I need to live like an immigrant  in my own country ? Rent are expensive, yes we know but is still affordable, I mean what are you saving for if you don’t have a roof over  your head ? The idea of a buying a van and build it like a home isn’t bad, but considering your safety it’s not advisable, and that is why I don’t buy the idea at all. No matter what it cost get a home you can afford to pay for thats just it and not living like an immigrant that is  trying to survive in another man’s country Seriously? Do you continue living like that ? How do you handle situations where you’re pressed and you need to use the toilet? Are you gonna go to the spa or gym to do that as well? Just get something over your Head an have a good life. The life is just too simple to start living like a second class human.
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wizard404Full Member
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#3Mar 13, 2017, 09:06 PM
A normal job? You mean a worker earning the Minimum wage or even more can’t afford to rent? I don’t think that’s true! The minimum wage in UK is around £12 per hour, so for someone working 8 hours a day…that’s £96 per day and around £1920 or more per month, for someone earning such a mouth even after taxes and bill he should be able to afford atleast a small room in a remote area. The world is becoming more expensive and more difficult for a common man, a side hustle + a decent job should atleast give you a shelter no matter where you live. Rent and real estate prices are increasing everyday and I don’t think anyone can do something about that, the only realistic solution is fit the common man to figure out how to majj Kh e more money and generate enough income legally to Carter for his needs.
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dan.whaleFull Member
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#4Mar 13, 2017, 10:53 PM
Is this meant to be an idea or just your thoughts? Not everyone I'm every country has to live on the street because they are poor. There are still some level to this shit. Because you are not rich don't mean you should not provide for yourself even the smallest means of comfort. I don't really like your advice, maybe someone would buy it but not me.i live in a country where things are difficult for the common man, but everyone still do well to hustle and provide a roof over their head. Just be your best, do what you can. You don't have to be all heads up about rent.
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gmfrensFull Member
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#5Mar 14, 2017, 02:18 AM
Housing problem is a global problem and not just peculiar to the United states or a section of the world. The fact that people easily adapt to the current situation even makes it more deficult because wether you like it or not, an average person will have to start his life with house rentage and with the high cost of getting one, it ends up becoming even more deficult to rent an apartment that's conducive for the average dude. But then, you should grow to the level where you're certain that living on the street is not an option. Regardless of the housing crisis and the hike in the cost of security accomodation, it you're resolute enough that leaving on the street is not an option, you will conquer it big time.
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#6Mar 14, 2017, 04:38 AM
You're right bro. What you have just said now is the true matter at hand when it comes to the housing issue. There are lots people out there who do not have their own homes and cannot afford to have one and the reason for this is tied to the growing population of the world ratio of the resources made available for use which is also controlled by the governments. It is like owing a home and housing many children in it, the more the population of the children grows the more the burden the scars the resources available for use. How many people can even sustain their food and domestic expenses talk more of buying or building a house yet the population keeps increasing significantly and the resources are not there to sustain the numbers.
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#7Mar 14, 2017, 06:00 AM
To be realistic the majority of people around the world do rent or own a home, so the title of your thread is just wrong. There's no doubt it is getting harder every year and there should be conversations about that, because there are far too many billionaires around who couldn't spend all their money in multiple lifetimes but continue to sit on it while others struggle. However you are starting from an extreme that is simply not true. You use rent in London as an example, yet London has it's own "living wage" which is above the UK national wage and the majority of employers pay to retain staff - you simply earn more in London so rents will naturally be higher too. There is a high amount of home ownership in the UK and many people manage to rent.
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rocket_matrixFull Member
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#8Mar 15, 2017, 10:57 AM
Rents have reached truly outrageous levels in many countries especially in cities like London where people can not save enough even with a regular job and this is a real problem. However the solution to this is to live in unsafe tents move into empty houses or normalize homelessness which can create even greater risks in the long run because it involves safety health mental stress and legal complications. Rather governments and society need to focus more on affordable housing fair salaries rent control and realistic living support for middle class people because just surviving somehow cannot be a sign of a healthy society.
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c4lmdeg3nSenior Member
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#9Mar 17, 2017, 10:20 AM
The cost of living in cities are becoming more harder because huge populations are migrating to cities to get jobs and survive and they will need houses to live in that is why city rents are skyrocketing to the moon. It is not as if there are deficit of houses in the big cities, on the contrary more houses are being built even the high rise apartments but they are not affordable, most of the low income earners in the cities cannot afford the high cost of rents. If you don't have a well paying job or profitable business to survive in the city it will be very difficult for you. This is why the city ghettos are overpopulated because that is where many poor city dwellers can afford cheap rents, the problem with those areas is that it is where different kinds of characters dwell in. My take is if you cannot afford to live a decent life in the city you should consider countrysides where you can afford a decent rent and have peace of mind.
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stack_2019Full Member
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#10Mar 17, 2017, 01:22 PM
It's literally impossible for someone to have a normal job in a country and not be able to afford rent, of course, you don't need to rent a luxurious villa, but as long as you have a roof over your head, that should be enough, and if you earn decent, you can even get a good accomodation no matter where you live, because countries will have their wages based on their inflation rate and the quality of life, unless it's a third-world country where people work so hard to earn a meager amount that can't even get them through the month properly because inflation is touching the sky, but wages stay the same, because government officials are busy filling their own pockets instead of thinking about their people. Anyways, if someone is living in a first-world or a developing country, and they have a job in the city, it is not possible for them to not be able to afford rent. It's different if you live in the country, and do a job that might not earn you enough to be able to afford accomodation within city, but these are two different things and different scenarios. You can't be a labourer and expect to have a big house to live in, because you will have to adjust according to your affordability and financial status.
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block21Full Member
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#11Mar 19, 2017, 10:54 PM
UK and Canada could be expensive especially owning your own house but however they also have rent of different categories, the ones that's very expensive and the one that's very affordable so there is no how a working person will not be able to pay for a small apartment. A van will never replace staying in an appointment because you wouldn't have any comfort and by the time you are bathing on the gym house and they realized it was because of homeless you are coming there, they would still stop you from using there restroom. What if the person start having kids, is it also how they would be sleeping in the van and looking for another place the next morning for bathing and others?.
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yield_ninjaFull Member
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#12Mar 20, 2017, 06:47 PM
I always ask myself and most people that are around me while having discussions, is it that real estate is a money laundering scheme, because most of this fine houses we see real estate developers build are literally above the pay grade of the masses, unlike in the Days of our Fathers where a worker can afford to pay for rent of a beautiful house without much stress. Today when you walk across the streets and see developers building houses immediately you ask how much the rent is, the amount is always above the pay grade of the average worker, then who are they building these houses for, is it for criminals and fraudsters, because obviously those are their target customers.
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kevinviperFull Member
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#13Mar 20, 2017, 11:24 PM
I just had to deal with this problem yesterday. Rent has risen so much recently that I'm spending over 70% of my salary. There's practically no money left to live on. I can't even afford new clothes. And they say the rent will get even higher in the future. So what do I do in this situation? Live under a roof and go hungry? What's that? I don't have the energy left for anything else. I have to find additional income to somehow survive in this day and age. I get the feeling the world is going crazy chasing money, or more precisely, the quantity of it.
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im_bullSenior Member
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#14Mar 21, 2017, 12:19 AM
Living in a van is a good way of saving costs from high rents in most cities. But this might not be as easy a life as you would be faced with problems such as a small living space, limited safe parking space, extreme weather discomfort, etc. This kind of life will be suitable for people without a family. With a high rate of crime in most cities, a dog might not be enough for protection. Living in a tent is a soft target for criminals. This is a good option since it is safe, convenient, and families can live in these houses. But some of these houses have several defects that might be expensive to fix. Still, I think it is the best option.
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s4t420Member
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#15Mar 23, 2017, 07:53 AM
In every country, we have the rich, the average and the poor people and every category has live different lifestyles according to their income. To most people, buying a house is a piece of cake and to some people could mean the whole world to them. For the average people, living is from hand to mouth and there is no significant improvement to their lifestyle until a big break happens. The cost of living is no joke and the price of things keeps increasing, the only we can stay relevant is finding ways to increase our profits as well.
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HyperGweiSenior Member
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#16Mar 24, 2017, 04:39 AM
The housing market has shift the social contract making shelter that was once a basic necessity now into luxury asset that is only reserved for elite class, renting a room in big cities like New York or London consumes a lot of salary. It is a strategic refusal to participate in rigged system by converting your Van into a home by utilising gym membership for hygiene. The prices of renting houses sky rocketting that is turning into a trap. Choosing alternative inorder to survive this inflation in today’s world is not a failure infact it is a good step to utilize the required resources without spending all the money.
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st4cks4tsFull Member
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#17Mar 26, 2017, 06:27 AM
Indeed the cost of living is very high, it's like we are in a constant state of economic hardship in the country. When I look at the price of housing in my country and then I reason the income rate of the average man, it makes me wonder like, the government really send the people at all? To buy land and fence it alone you at looking at a million or so and planning hasn't even started. I mean it is just something else entirely yet they want youths to survive regardless.
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block_hashFull Member
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#18Mar 26, 2017, 07:32 AM
Or better yet, go to the countryside and find another job. Because the rent is quite cheaper as well as the cost of living expenses. But of course, you might sacrifice your job or career. But you need to make a choice on how you want to live your life. Because if you are really in the city, expect that you will incur good amount of money. It is as if you are always in a hurry. So find another alternative lifestyle that you think you can survive.
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atomichodlerFull Member
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#19Mar 26, 2017, 07:50 AM
You don't have to live in London. You can live in suburbs. Try Watford or Luton. If you can't afford to live in mega cities, try smaller ones. Find a better job that pays you enough to pay your rent, bills and groceries. It's easy to complain. Everybody can do that. The cost of living is getting really high. Standards of living are falling. I agree with that but it's still up to you to make changes in your own life.
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kevinviperFull Member
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#20Mar 26, 2017, 01:35 PM
The real paradox is that there is practically no work left in the villages. In any case, you would have to commute to the city to earn a living—and that entails additional expenses. Consequently, this option is far from suitable for everyone. It would certainly be beyond my budget; a huge chunk of my funds would go toward transportation costs. I need to find something suitable that isn't quite so expensive. Nowadays, landlords raise their prices every single year, whereas wages certainly aren't indexed annually.
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